T Up a Fan?!?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I know you don't think they bear full responsibility. I'm telling you they bear zero responsibility. If they aren't off the floor, there are other problems. Let me put this clearly for you.

Officials have no crowd control responsibilities. None.

That all falls, 100%, on game site management.

If the officials can't get off the floor due to the crowd, that's a problem that will be reported . Part of GM responsibility is to allow the officials to leave quickly.

No, rule 2-8-1 cannot be used in this case. Read it carefully, please.

I'll pull the relevant portion out for you: "The officials may may call fouls on either team if its supporters act in a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game."

The game is over, so that's impossible. This rule is pretty much there for those cases where the fans get together and decide to throw toilet paper or empty water bottles or diapers onto the floor during the game; at least that's how I understand it. Johnny's dad shouting obscenities doesn't count, either.

If game management cannot properly run a facililty, it's not on the officials to enforce any rules to help them.

Thanks for the clarification on that.

So basically all the officials can do then is write & send in a report tot heir assignor & local/state association where the host could possibly have sanctions put against them for improper crowd control procedures. Or is there more that I'm missing?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Thanks for the clarification on that.

So basically all the officials can do then is write & send in a report tot heir assignor & local/state association where the host could possibly have sanctions put against them for improper crowd control procedures. Or is there more that I'm missing?

That's about right. And the only way we're doing that is if we somehow feel threatened or impeded in getting off the court. The reason is, that's the only way we'll know.
By the time the teams do their handshake and actually try to get off the court, we've got our shoes off.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

By the time the teams do their handshake and actually try to get off the court, we've got our shoes off.

Unless it's a certain state in the northeast, right? Or is that OBE?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Unless it's a certain state in the northeast, right? Or is that OBE?

LOL, yeah I was thinking about that when I wrote it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Thanks for the clarification on that.

So basically all the officials can do then is write & send in a report tot heir assignor & local/state association where the host could possibly have sanctions put against them for improper crowd control procedures. Or is there more that I'm missing?

If the game is over and the officials have left the visual confines of the court, then even a report is more the responsibility of the host school than of the officials.

Frankly, I wouldn't even notice the rest of the crap you mentioned by that point.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the game is over and the officials have left the visual confines of the court, then even a report is more the responsibility of the host school than of the officials.

Frankly, I wouldn't even notice the rest of the crap you mentioned by that point.

Bob,

I was thinking of the scenario if the floor officials were unable to get off the court due to the crowd rushing onto the court. Of course, if the officials are already out of the visual confines there's nothing they can do.