T Up a Fan?!?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

First, no one takes this oath as a parent. Second, it's irrelevant.
Third, if I, as a parent, am at the game, I will make all decisions on my child's medical care with consultation of the doctors. I know my child's medical history better than anyone else in that building.

And yes, my parental rights trump everything else. If I make a decision, and some coach or doctor I don't know tries to stop me, there will be legal hell to pay like you've never seen.

And, if, as a parent, I decided I needed to be on the court with my child, you would be putting yourself in physical danger by trying to prevent me from getting on the court.

6 years ago, my younger brother (26 at the time) had cancer removed from his chest. That first night after surgery, he went into respiratory arrest due to a morphine overdose. My dad made it clear to hospital staff that they would have to have him arrested in order to keep. Do you think any other father would be different? Do you think any high school security person is going to keep him off the court?

I am not saying completely ban/bar the parent from assisting, however they should not be getting in the way of medical personnel by being right there by the student-athlete's side. I have had first responder training, due to having the security/crowd control training, in instances where a patron directly interferes with another patron getting direct medical treatment, the patron causing the interference will be asked to leave or will be removed to a safe distance. If by police intervention, so be it.

Anyone in the medical profession lives by the Hippocratic Oath, if harm is being done by someone being in their way, they have the right to have that person removed regardless of who that person is. If a parent gets in the way of a medical professional trying to save their child's life, & the medical professional cannot do their duty due to the interference, the parent can have charges brought against them (the charge would vary depending on the juridictional rules/regulations).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I am not saying completely ban/bar the parent from assisting, however they should not be getting in the way of medical personnel by being right there by the student-athlete's side. I have had first responder training, due to having the security/crowd control training, in instances where a patron directly interferes with another patron getting direct medical treatment, the patron causing the interference will be asked to leave or will be removed to a safe distance. If by police intervention, so be it.

Anyone in the medical profession lives by the Hippocratic Oath, if harm is being done by someone being in their way, they have the right to have that person removed regardless of who that person is. If a parent gets in the way of a medical professional trying to save their child's life, & the medical professional cannot do their duty due to the interference, the parent can have charges brought against them (the charge would vary depending on the juridictional rules/regulations).

I DGAF what training you have had. You try to physically stop a parent from getting to their child, you're asking for pain. Take it to court and roll the dice with the jury.

That said, we're not talking life threatening injuries on the court. But if we are, I'll be by my child's side while they treat him/her. And you did say you'd physically try to prevent that parent from getting onto the court. I'm telling you not to try it, for your own safety. You may have had crowd control training, but you have no idea what training that parent has had.

Chances are, we're talking about leg, arm, or maybe head injuries that are not life threatening. Again, do not get in my way. And if, as a first responder, you do not respond to my directions with regard to treatment, expect to lose your license for treating a minor without parental consent.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That said, we're not talking life threatening injuries on the court. But if we are, I'll be by my child's side while they treat him/her.

So I'll ask you the same question that I just asked BktBallRef, do you expect to be able to do that in a hospital trauma ward too?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So I'll ask you the same question that I just asked BktBallRef, do you expect to be able to do that in a hospital trauma ward too?

If I can be present, I will be. I will make those decisions. I have that right. Look, I've been around sports long enough to know injuries happen. I'm not going to be rushing down there unless it looks severe.

But, as an official on the court, I'm not going to prevent nor punish a parent for making a different choice than I would make for my child. There may very well be issues with that child's health that any first responders may need to be aware of.

If GM wants to do something about it, they can. If they don't, I'm ok with that.

No way I go into the OR, either, per your question to BktBallref. But I will have made the decisions necessary for that surgery to happen if I was able to do so. If I was not, it won't be because some overzealous "crowd control" kid stopped me.