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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 01:18am
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You don't see entering the court without permission as improper?
I do. I don't see it interfering with the conduct of the game.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 01:19am
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I do. I don't see it interfering with the conduct of the game.
Then what sanction do you propose for that improper conduct?
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 01:25am
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Then what sanction do you propose for that improper conduct?
If fan leaves gym with injured child, nothing. There is no interference with the game, nor future problem.

If fan wishes to remain in gym:
"Mr. Game-Management-Supervisor, please go speak with that person who came on the floor and remind them that they can't come onto the floor anytime they please. Thanks."

If fan was unruly towards anyone while on floor:
"Mr. Game-Management-Supervisor, please go speak with that person who came on the floor and escort them out of the facility before we resume the game. Thanks."

Again, the foul can be issued if it interferes with the game. I don't believe these actions interfere with anything, except for maybe the few cases where the medical personnel are bothered by overzealous nervous parents.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 01:53am
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I don't believe these actions interfere with anything, except for maybe the few cases where the medical personnel are bothered by overzealous nervous parents.
Agreed. And even then, it is not an issue for the officials to deal with.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 02:24am
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If fan leaves gym with injured child, nothing. There is no interference with the game, nor future problem.

If fan wishes to remain in gym:
"Mr. Game-Management-Supervisor, please go speak with that person who came on the floor and remind them that they can't come onto the floor anytime they please. Thanks."

If fan was unruly towards anyone while on floor:
"Mr. Game-Management-Supervisor, please go speak with that person who came on the floor and escort them out of the facility before we resume the game. Thanks."

Again, the foul can be issued if it interferes with the game. I don't believe these actions interfere with anything, except for maybe the few cases where the medical personnel are bothered by overzealous nervous parents.
The problem with the way that you are handling this is that there is absolutely no deterrent to spectators from coming onto the court whenever they deem it necessary.

I don't believe in permitting this type of behavior. Therefore, I favor having strong sanctions against it. You seem to be okay with random people coming onto the court during games which you officiate. I don't feel that that provides a safe environment for the participants and officials, so I'm not okay with it.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 02:33am
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The problem with the way that you are handling this is that there is absolutely no deterrent to spectators from coming onto the court whenever they deem it necessary.

I don't believe in permitting this type of behavior. Therefore, I favor having strong sanctions against it. You seem to be okay with random people coming onto the court during games which you officiate. I don't feel that that provides a safe environment for the participants and officials, so I'm not okay with it.
Random fans? Seriously, Nevada, we're talking about parents coming down during an apparently serious injury situation; not random fans strolling onto the court.

You gonna T the home team when some fans cut across the corner of the court on their way to the bleachers? No, you let GM deal with it until it actually affects the game.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 02:34am
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Let it go, Adam. He can't see the forest for the trees.

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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 03:14am
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You seem to be okay with random people coming onto the court during games which you officiate. I don't feel that that provides a safe environment for the participants and officials, so I'm not okay with it.
Who in this entire thread said anything about "random people" coming onto the court during a game? Oh, I see, only you have said that. So if you say it, is everyone else just supposed to assume someone who you're arguing against (everyone) said it, and you're quoting them?

when engaged in an argument with multiple persons, one realizes that they are the lone person representing their opinion, while numerous others have a different opinion, one may want to reconsider their position, (hint, hint) unless of course they are incapable of doing that.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 02:27am
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Again, the foul can be issued if it interferes with the game. I don't believe these actions interfere with anything, except for maybe the few cases where the medical personnel are bothered by overzealous nervous parents.
Here's the kicker. If I'm the parent, those medical personnel had damn well better be following my direction and allowing me to make the decisions. I'm there, consult me. You don't get to make those decisions without a parent's consent when the parent is there.

My only concern with the OP was the fact that the parent ripped into the officials. I guarantee you, if my kid is that hurt that I'm coming down, I won't even know the officials are there. It's me, my child, and the medics.
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