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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:12pm
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I don't know how the NCAA rule reads in this matter, but I think it is undeniable that this is potentially unfair to one team for this reason.
While it feels unfair, what would be the proper remedy? In this instance it would seem like the "right" thing to do would be to leave the 1.2 on the clock and play out the game. However, had the stoppage happened with 5 seconds, or 2 seconds left, or 0.2 seconds left, what then? How do we decide when to take the time off and when we shouldn't?

The clock change benefited Butler. But had the last shot come with .8 instead of 1.8 showing, it would have hurt Butler as they'd have cancelled the shot. This is one of those rules that is unfair to one team or the other only based on how the play actually unfolds.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:20pm
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While it feels unfair, what would be the proper remedy? In this instance it would seem like the "right" thing to do would be to leave the 1.2 on the clock and play out the game. However, had the stoppage happened with 5 seconds, or 2 seconds left, or 0.2 seconds left, what then? How do we decide when to take the time off and when we shouldn't?

The clock change benefited Butler. But had the last shot come with .8 instead of 1.8 showing, it would have hurt Butler as they'd have cancelled the shot. This is one of those rules that is unfair to one team or the other only based on how the play actually unfolds.
If the mistake and the resulting adjustment had canceled the score, I see it as much more fair to replay the final 14.7 than to let this happen.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:36pm
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If the mistake and the resulting adjustment had canceled the score, I see it as much more fair to replay the final 14.7 than to let this happen.
But there is no rule for a "do-over"
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:39pm
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But there is no rule for a "do-over"
Didn't say it was the rule. I said it would be more fair than the rule.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:46pm
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Didn't say it was the rule. I said it would be more fair than the rule.
Gotcha....and I agree. Even though I'm sure there would still be controversy regardless because either the team that scores got to set up a play or the defense got to set up their defensive.....the losing team would still be upset.....but I do agree with you there.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 01:49pm
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Is there any provision in the NCAA rulebook that would allow the officials to re-start the game back at the 14.7 mark?
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 02:00pm
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Is there any provision in the NCAA rulebook that would allow the officials to re-start the game back at the 14.7 mark?
Of course not.

The officials did the right thing by rule. Whenever someone messes up (in this instance the timer) near the end of the game, one team gets "screwed" no matter how the problem is fixed. In this instance the rules committee has decided that the best of the poor choices is to do what they did.
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