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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 08:52am
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Personally, I care where they sit. I've seen several incidents that could have been avoided if they were co-located next to each other and not on either side of the clock operator.

I like to approach the table and look em both in the eye and ask if everything is ok and if their books agree? Works for me.
And if there is only one person keeping a scorebook for the game does the game always have an incident?
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And if there is only one person keeping a scorebook for the game does the game always have an incident?
Always? No.

I have seen, meaning not necessarily in a game I've officiated, several occasions where "young" scorekeepers have disagreed in the number of points and fouls and created confusion and issues.

I was keeping the clock once for a JV game and had a very experienced scorebook person for H. Everytime something happened she would say it and repeat it out loud - "Foul, red, two - his first, team's third." "Timeout blue coach, their second, at 4:37." I found this really interesting and useful.

Sometimes having only one book is a good thing too.
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 09:09am
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Always? No.

I have seen, meaning not necessarily in a game I've officiated, several occasions where "young" scorekeepers have disagreed in the number of points and fouls and created confusion and issues.

I was keeping the clock once for a JV game and had a very experienced scorebook person for H. Everytime something happened she would say it and repeat it out loud - "Foul, red, two - his first, team's third." "Timeout blue coach, their second, at 4:37." I found this really interesting and useful.

Sometimes having only one book is a good thing too.
My point was that only a single scorer is now required by the rules. You can't force there to be more than one. You also don't have any say in where these people sit. That is totally up to game management and the teams.

Therefore, accept that mistakes may happen and deal with them according to the rules. If something unfortunate happens to one of the teams because they either don't provide a scorer or don't have that person sit where he/she can compare records with the other scorer, then that is their fault. The game officials cannot worry about things beyond their control.
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My point was that only a single scorer is now required by the rules. You can't force there to be more than one. You also don't have any say in where these people sit. That is totally up to game management and the teams.

Therefore, accept that mistakes may happen and deal with them according to the rules. If something unfortunate happens to one of the teams because they either don't provide a scorer or don't have that person sit where he/she can compare records with the other scorer, then that is their fault. The game officials cannot worry about things beyond their control.
I understand only one scorer is required, but if they have two, so be it.

I don't "force" them to move - I say, "I would appreciate if you two would sit next to each other," and explain why.

I don't consider asking the two scorers to sit next to each other politely as being "beyond my control." We are all one team. I have never had anyone say no yet.

And yes, I do accept mistakes can and will happen.
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