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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 10:28am
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Add a team technical?

Quick takes:

Bench personnel A9 leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.
Flagrant, disqualified, indirect on coach.
But, what if A9 has wrong number in book or not listed?

I don't, but does anyone have justification for a team technical?
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 10:30am
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He must now be added to the book.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 10:39am
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Any difference?

a) Bench personnel A9 (in uniform) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.
b) Bench personnel A9 (not in uniform) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.
c) Bench personnel A9 (team manager in sweater) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.

Which would incur team technical for 'adding to book'?
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 10:40am
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Wrong number or not listed it has to be corrected or added to charge A9 with the flagrant technical.

Therefore, provided they already have received a technical for 10-1-2 earlier in the game, charge them with a team technical for adding/changing A9.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 10:50am
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a) Bench personnel A9 (in uniform) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.
b) Bench personnel A9 (not in uniform) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.
c) Bench personnel A9 (team manager in sweater) leaves the bench area when a fight may break out.

Which would incur team technical for 'adding to book'?
a)

A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player.

In b) and c) they are just bench personnel.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 11:03am
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However, if the sweater the manager is wearing is really ugly, I might hit him with a flagrant T just for that
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 11:20am
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Team member/eligible forces entry in the book.

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A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player.

In b) and c) they are just bench personnel.
So, team member in uniform, but wearing a cast. No T.
Team member on the bench, in uniform, ineligible due to grades/probation. No T.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 11:34am
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So, team member in uniform, but wearing a cast. No T.
Team member on the bench, in uniform, ineligible due to grades/probation. No T.
If they're on the bench in uniform, they're eligible to play from my perspective. And if a player comes off with a cast to join fight, I have no problem doubling up that T. If they weren't going to play, they shouldn't have been on the bench in uniform. And if they keep their heads and stay out of the fight, I won't ever care.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 11:36am
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However, if the sweater the manager is wearing is really ugly, I might hit him with a flagrant T just for that
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So, team member in uniform, but wearing a cast. No T.
Team member on the bench, in uniform, ineligible due to grades/probation. No T.
More than likely in both of these situations neither will be in uniform.

Obviously, the cast we know he can't play. However, how are we to know a player is ineligible due to team policies?

Like I said, around my area, certainly if you have grades/other team violations you aren't dressing. The same can be said about if you are wearing a cast too.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:02pm
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So, team member in uniform, but wearing a cast. No T.
Team member on the bench, in uniform, ineligible due to grades/probation. No T.
I don't get to determine eligibility, and eligibility issues are never brought to my attention. Even the guy with the cast is not ineligible to play afaik, he just cannot play with the cast on. Same reasoning as jewelry, etc.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 12:31pm
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Is it against the rules to be in uniform and not be in the book if the kid was not supposed to play? This kid may have been sick or injured or academically ineligible. You can call a T on bench personnel without adding a number to the book.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 01:26pm
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You're right, but by participating in the fight, I'm going to make an assumption that he's a team member. Now that he's participated, I'm adding him to the book. You don't have to, but I will.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 01:39pm
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You're right, but by participating in the fight, I'm going to make an assumption that he's a team member. Now that he's participated, I'm adding him to the book. You don't have to, but I will.
Based on what rule?
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