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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:28pm
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Are You turning in the other team? Because that can make you look adversarial.
When I'm doing scoreboard/timer, I'm neutral, I'll report either team if I see an infraction.

Last year, I almost got my alma mater an administrative technical due to the person doing scorebook had their friends sitting with them & distracting them from their duties. (They got a warning, & other event personnel came to the table asking those not working the table to leave the area)

I have told the floor officials that I've worked with, that although I may be at volunteering at my alma mater, I am neutral & will report what I've seen if it doesn't correspond to rules/regulations no matter who the team. They appreciate that
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 02:44am
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When I'm doing scoreboard/timer, I'm neutral, I'll report either team if I see an infraction.
I have told the floor officials that I've worked with, that although I may be at volunteering at my alma mater, I am neutral & will report what I've seen if it doesn't correspond to rules/regulations no matter who the team. They appreciate that
A couple weeks back at our varsity (home) tournamant, during our home team's game, while the opponent is in possession of the ball, I hear someone over at the scorers table counting out loudly, "seven, six, five, four, three,..." as the shot clock counts down. I look over there, and it's the frikin official scorer! WTF?!?!?

Our guy has been doing this job for us a long time, and never heard that out of him before. Someone might have said something to him, as he didn't do it again. I know the guy. We're actually lucky to have him. He's kind of slow, but is very meticulous and takes his job very seriously. He's actually perfect for the job because he seems to feel it's the most important task on the planet. And to him, I suppose it is.

SOrt of off topic I guess. I'm just glad he doesn't look for other things like bobbie pins, untucked jerseys, bra straps, etc. that would be obnoxious
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 03:45am
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A couple weeks back at our varsity (home) tournamant, during our home team's game, while the opponent is in possession of the ball, I hear someone over at the scorers table counting out loudly, "seven, six, five, four, three,..." as the shot clock counts down. I look over there, and it's the frikin official scorer! WTF?!?!?

Our guy has been doing this job for us a long time, and never heard that out of him before. Someone might have said something to him, as he didn't do it again. I know the guy. We're actually lucky to have him. He's kind of slow, but is very meticulous and takes his job very seriously. He's actually perfect for the job because he seems to feel it's the most important task on the planet. And to him, I suppose it is.

SOrt of off topic I guess. I'm just glad he doesn't look for other things like bobbie pins, untucked jerseys, bra straps, etc. that would be obnoxious
Like I have mentioned in previous posts, I am getting more & more into doing the "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to anything uniform related. Only if I deem it a safety hazard anymore do I say anything. The incident with the bobbie pins in the hair, the floor officials were glad that I did see that & report it.

He could of been doing the shot clock countdown as the floor officials didn't notice the time left or the shot clock buzzer isn't very loud.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 04:03am
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Like I have mentioned in previous posts, I am getting more & more into doing the "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to anything uniform related. Only if I deem it a safety hazard anymore do I say anything. The incident with the bobbie pins in the hair, the floor officials were glad that I did see that & report it.

He could of been doing the shot clock countdown as the floor officials didn't notice the time left or the shot clock buzzer isn't very loud.
It's not your job to deem it anything. Quit worrying about it.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 09:20am
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He could of been doing the shot clock countdown as the floor officials didn't notice the time left or the shot clock buzzer isn't very loud.
He might HAVE been doing it for that reason, but he shoudn't HAVE been doing it for that reason. He must HAVE been confused about his role.

He could HAVE been doing it if the shot clock wasn't working and he was doing it for both teams and with prior arrangement with the teams and the officials.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 09:46am
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He could of been doing the shot clock countdown as the floor officials didn't notice the time left or the shot clock buzzer isn't very loud.

1) Why does it matter if the officials know how much time is left?

2) How does he know whether or not the officials knew how much time is left?
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 10:53am
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Girls JV game last night, lining up for the free throw. All of a sudden, ref throws a T. I thought it was a girl making comments about the foul call. But nope, turns out one girl had a barrett (sp?) in. I've never seen that get T'd, seems happen about once a game JV, once every 3 games V, but usually they just stop play and tell them to take it out.

Anyone ever T'd over a bobby pin/barrett?
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 10:59am
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Girls JV game last night, lining up for the free throw. All of a sudden, ref throws a T. I thought it was a girl making comments about the foul call. But nope, turns out one girl had a barrett (sp?) in. I've never seen that get T'd, seems happen about once a game JV, once every 3 games V, but usually they just stop play and tell them to take it out.

Anyone ever T'd over a bobby pin/barrett?
Nope. And shouldn't since there is no provision to penalize it with a technical foul. Simply have the player leave the game, and tell her she can't play with the pin in.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 11:00am
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No, I haven't. The rules don't allow for it. The rule says she can't play, it's not punishable by a T.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 11:01am
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Girls JV game last night, lining up for the free throw. All of a sudden, ref throws a T. I thought it was a girl making comments about the foul call. But nope, turns out one girl had a barrett (sp?) in. I've never seen that get T'd, seems happen about once a game JV, once every 3 games V, but usually they just stop play and tell them to take it out.

Anyone ever T'd over a bobby pin/barrett?

Don't blame the official, blame the official scorekeeper and/or crowd control. He/they should have seen the items and notified the official before the T could be issued.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 11:03am
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Don't blame the official, blame the official scorekeeper and/or crowd control. He/they should have seen the items and notified the official before the T could be issued.

Or he should have least correct the R, and said that is not a T. ROFLOL.
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Don't blame the official, blame the official scorekeeper and/or crowd control. He/they should have seen the items and notified the official before the T could be issued.
Youch! Good catch!
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Anyone ever T'd over a bobby pin/barrett?
"Coach, I need another one. This one's not ready to play" and I send em off. That's all for me.

I had a play once. BJV game. ~40 secs left as I recall. H down by plenty and coach clears his bench for V's two free-throws. I'm T (two-man) and as I'm observing the first free-throws I notice H2 has a chain on. After first free-throw. TWEEET! "Coach, I need another one. This one's not ready to play" and I sent him off.

Coach sent him to the end of the bench and although he had the opportunity to get him back in the game he didn't.

I always wondered if mom and dad were there watching the game and what they thought......
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 12:34pm
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Anyone ever T'd over a bobby pin/barrett?
I had a partner do that several years ago, before I knew it was not punishable by a T.

I saw a varsity crew last night issue a T because the home team did not mark their starters. Then they chose not to add one to the team foul count (they couldn't remember whether it was a team foul).
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 08:25pm
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I had a partner do that several years ago, before I knew it was not punishable by a T.

I saw a varsity crew last night issue a T because the home team did not mark their starters. Then they chose not to add one to the team foul count (they couldn't remember whether it was a team foul).
Please tell me by NE Ohio that you belong to the Mahoning Valley Association. I hope what you described wasn't done by a LEBOA or NOOA officiating crew.
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