Jewelry rule causes yelling

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Are You turning in the other team? Because that can make you look adversarial.

When I'm doing scoreboard/timer, I'm neutral, I'll report either team if I see an infraction.

Last year, I almost got my alma mater an administrative technical due to the person doing scorebook had their friends sitting with them & distracting them from their duties. (They got a warning, & other event personnel came to the table asking those not working the table to leave the area)

I have told the floor officials that I've worked with, that although I may be at volunteering at my alma mater, I am neutral & will report what I've seen if it doesn't correspond to rules/regulations no matter who the team. They appreciate that

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

And what exactly is it that you do in this situation?

You say you have read the rule book. Have you read Rule 2 thoroughly?

[grunewar]

CHS - While I understand what you're doing and how you're trying to do it, I'm not so sure I want an OOS (Overly Officious Scorekeeper) working the table.....

[Ignats75]

Wannaree. n wa na REE.
1. A civilian who wants to be a referee without putting their butt on the line.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

An unsafe item (like metal hair pins) is one thing - I'm not sure I'm all about a scorer/timer noting that, but to each their own.

But noting an untucked shirt - simply out of line. I wouldn't appreciate it. In fact, I'd likely tell you where to put your observation. And I'd guess most officials telling you they appreciate your noting something like that are simply being nice/tolerant.

I think it was you that mentioned in another thread that you keep a copy of the duties of the scorer and timer at the table. I'd stick to those duties.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And what exactly is it that you do in this situation?

You say you have read the rule book. Have you read Rule 2 thoroughly?

The rules I use are those listed off the NFHS Site for public viewing, as well as the Online Rules Clinic on the WIAA Site that's for public viewing.

When I let the floor officials know of the uniform or other thing I notice, I wait until a dead ball or a reporting occurs. If that player is subbed for, I let the book know that their coach needs to let that player know of their jersey. I wish I had access to the case book & rule book, unfortunately I do not.

[just another ref]

chseagle, I've gotta ask. Is there a reason why you do no become an official yourself? You seem to be starved for more responsibility/authority/power.

[Ignats75]

You keep time. Stop the clock when I blow my whistle and start it when I chop. That's your job. Mine is to officiate the game. Never the twain shall meet. I'm not sure the coaches would view you any differently than a fan screaming from the stands.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by grunewar

CHS - While I understand what you're doing and how you're trying to do it, I'm not so sure I want an OOS (Overly Officious Scorekeeper) working the table.....

I'm training myself not to do things like this all the time. I only do it when it looks to be a safety risk to those on the floor, or it's clearly visible. I believe in the "Out of sight. out of mind", so if it'd hardly noticeable I don't worry about it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The rules I use are those listed off the NFHS Site for public viewing, as well as the Online Rules Clinic on the WIAA Site that's for public viewing.

When I let the floor officials know of the uniform or other thing I notice, I wait until a dead ball or a reporting occurs. If that player is subbed for, I let the book know that their coach needs to let that player know of their jersey. I wish I had access to the case book & rule book, unfortunately I do not.

Well, not to sound rude, but if it were my game after the first time I would ask you to refrain from such activity.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

chseagle, I've gotta ask. Is there a reason why you do no become an official yourself? You seem to be starved for more responsibility/authority/power.

I would like to be a floor official, however I am unsure if my health will allow me.

Also right now, I do not have reliable transportation to attend training & meetings or assignments.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I would like to be a floor official, however I am unsure if my health will allow me.

Also right now, I do not have reliable transportation to attend training & meetings or assignments.

Yet you find a way to get to games and do crowd control and provide warnings of untucked jerseys. Interesting.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, not to sound rude, but if it were my game after the first time I would ask you to refrain from such activity.

I'd offer to allow him more time to spend on crowd control.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Yet you find a way to get to games and do crowd control and provide warnings of untucked jerseys. Interesting.

I'm able to do games at alma mater, cause of not being far away from my house. As I stated in an earlier post, I am training myself not to get so involved on events on the floor, and focusing more on what's right in front of me (scoreboard controls & scorebook).

I have only done the notifying about the untucked jerseys once or twice to the floor officials. Majority of the time, I'll let that team's scorebook know to notify the coach about that player's jersey.

Different people have differing opinons I appreciate that.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Forksref

The coach sets the tone with explaining the rules at the beginning of the season. There should never be any uniform/jewelry issues when the team comes on the floor!

Amen ...