Interesting Technical Situation

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is always some official or assignor or supervisor who believes that he knows the best way to handle everything. All this does is display his ego and superior attitude. Such people believe that they know better than all of those who came before them and took the time to discuss, agree upon, and write down the regulations by which the contest shall be governed.

Sadly, we now have "Big Joe" walk in and decide that such and such a rule isn't a good one and he isn't going to make that call or isn't going to enforce it or isn't going to have "his officials" make that call.

That kind of behavior is very egotistical and downright sad.

When the person telling you how something ought to be called is the commissioner of your association, and also is someone who has been on the rules committee for upteen zillion years, and STILL DOES RULES CLINICS ALL OVER THE STATE, you do it the way he says to regardless of what the rule book says, or what you think. That's just the way things are, Nevada.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

When the person telling you how something ought to be called is the commissioner of your association, and also is someone who has been on the rules committee for upteen zillion years, and STILL DOES RULES CLINICS ALL OVER THE STATE, you do it the way he says to regardless of what the rule book says, or what you think. That's just the way things are, Nevada.

Only if you are too weak to stand up to that person's tyranny.

The great thing about a free country is that each individual gets to decide if he will compromise his principles and integrity for personal gain.

[Ignats75]

Nevada old boy. You need to get down off your high horse. While I did not quote a rule citation (other than 2-3), I did quote the "Preamble" that is the paragraph before rule #1.

Also, you may not like it, but I don't work for the Federation. I work for the Ohsaa and the assignors who choose to use me. If I don't follow their instruction, I'm unemployed.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Nevada old boy. You need to get down off your high horse. While I did not quote a rule citation (other than 2-3), I did quote the "Preamble" that is the paragraph before rule #1.

Also, you may not like it, but I don't work for the Federation. I work for the Ohsaa and the assignors who choose to use me. If I don't follow their instruction, I'm unemployed.

Hmmmm.... none of those responses were directed to you. I certainly wasn't trying to attack you personally or offend you.

You have made it clear how you feel about this play and how you are going to deal with it. I've come down on the opposite side. If that means that I am on a high horse, then okay.

Each of us will have to answer to our governing authority for our actions/decisions. I'm going to make sure that I have rules backing if I get called in.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Only if you are too weak to stand up to that person's tyranny.

The great thing about a free country is that each individual gets to decide if he will compromise his principles and integrity for personal gain.

Yup that's me, lol! I'm all about compromising my principles and sacrificing my integrity for personal gain.

[Adam]

I'll ask it here, too.
How is this situation different than the one in which the official tells the coach his player is DQd with 5 fouls, but later wonders whether he had the coach's attention so does not issue the appropriate penalty when said player returns to the game?

[just another ref]

What if your partner beckons the sub in while the ball is live? Would we call a T then for 6 on the floor?


What if the sub stands and is immediately beckoned by the official, and walks straight onto the court. Would we call a T for failing to report to the scorer?

The possibilities are endless.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Yup that's me, lol! I'm all about compromising my principles and sacrificing my integrity for personal gain.

Isn't it amazing how that guy can see right through you Juulie, see right down to the very core of your character and come up with his truly enlightening insights about you. He's amazing.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Yup that's me, lol! I'm all about compromising my principles and sacrificing my integrity for personal gain.

Yet you do worship at the idol of Howard.

Pardon me, if I don't choose to take his word as gospel.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Only if you are too weak to stand up to that person's tyranny.

The great thing about a free country is that each individual gets to decide if he will compromise his principles and integrity for personal gain.

Wow, Hitler, Rasputin, Idi Amin last time I looked were tyrants. never lumped assignors in that grouping.

Me thinks Nevada is grasping a little here and letting fly the platitudes.

Hopefully you'll come your senses if this situation occurs.

[Back In The Saddle]

Tyrant is a generic term meaning, "A person who does not agree with me but who has power or influence over me."

[Adam]

Nevada, can you explain to me how this is different than the situation where the official tells the coach his player has been DQd; but after that player returns to the game questions whether he had the coach's attention?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nevada, can you explain to me how this is different than the situation where the official tells the coach his player has been DQd; but after that player returns to the game questions whether he had the coach's attention?

No, I can't. Can you?

Do you know my opinion of what should have been done in that DQ situation?

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Wow, Hitler, Rasputin, Idi Amin last time I looked were tyrants. never lumped assignors in that grouping.

Me thinks Nevada is grasping a little here and letting fly the platitudes.

Hopefully you'll come your senses if this situation occurs.

You don't know some of my assignors : D

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

When the person telling you how something ought to be called is the commissioner of your association, and also is someone who has been on the rules committee for upteen zillion years, and STILL DOES RULES CLINICS ALL OVER THE STATE, you do it the way he says to regardless of what the rule book says, or what you think. That's just the way things are, Nevada.

Gee, Juulie. Are you referring to Howard? And I don't mean Avery.