3-man officiating

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by representing

Don't even look back, the now-trail will cover that side line and both the C and T can cover fouls.

Not true. That is, it might be what is done in your area, but it's not taught at any of the camps I've been to.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

I'd like to add one that is always true. If you're the trail and going to be a lead in any situation (dead ball, made basket, turnover, etc) you sprint to get your butt down to the baseline of the opposite basket from where the ball was just at. Don't even look back, the now-trail will cover that side line and both the C and T can cover fouls. It's important to be under the basket asap. I'm pretty sure this goes for anyone, but I haven't officiated out of my area yet and this is how we do it around here.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not true. That is, it might be what is done in your area, but it's not taught at any of the camps I've been to.

Bob's right. You immediately have players in your primary that you need to officiate. If you run down without watching them, one day you'll find yourself wondering who started the fight.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Bob's right. You immediately have players in your primary that you need to officiate. If you run down without watching them, one day you'll find yourself wondering who started the fight.

You got 4 other eyes watching the players.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

You got 4 other eyes watching the players.

And the whole point of 3 whistles is to have 6 eyes watching the players. If there's pressure in the BC, those four eyes are watching the pressure.

If there's a breakaway layup about to happen, you've got on-ball coverage. I've been dinged specifically for not turning around and looking.

Again, as Bob said, if that's how you're taught, then do it. Most of us, however, have been taught differently.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And the whole point of 3 whistles is to have 6 eyes watching the players. If there's pressure in the BC, those four eyes are watching the pressure.

If there's a breakaway layup about to happen, you've got on-ball coverage. I've been dinged specifically for not turning around and looking.

Again, as Bob said, if that's how you're taught, then do it. Most of us, however, have been taught differently.

Exactly. It is a BIG no-no here to turn your back on the court when you're the new Lead during transition, whether it's 2 or 3-man.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And the whole point of 3 whistles is to have 6 eyes watching the players. If there's pressure in the BC, those four eyes are watching the pressure.

If there's a breakaway layup about to happen, you've got on-ball coverage. I've been dinged specifically for not turning around and looking.

Again, as Bob said, if that's how you're taught, then do it. Most of us, however, have been taught differently.

While you've been "dinged" for not turning around, I've been "dinged" for turning around and looking. I've been told this way, even though I don't agree with it just as you guys are apparently saying, but it is just how it is around here. I don't agree with it strongly, I think I should be looking back, but around here the idea is that turning around slows you down a little, and in games (especially boys) where the players are extremely fast, you need to be under the basket when something could be going down under there.

So I guess this isn't a definite procedure, but this is what I'm teaching rookie 3-man officials when they ask me to "tutor" them.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by representing

but it is just how it is around here.

You may have said this before -- but where is "here?"

[jdw3018]

Interesting discussion regarding transitioning from T to L. I actually think the "turn and get down the court" advice is good - but do so while officiating your primary.

One of the things that's hard to do when moving from 2-man to 3-man is the realization that once rebounding action is over, as T to L there's nothing for you to officiate at the point of the rebound. It's also technically true in 2-man, but a rebound in your primary across the court from L is something I often want to watch for an extra second or two.

In 3-man, as soon as the 'defense' has secured the ball, I'm turning and going to beat all players to the other end. But, I do so while looking over my shoulder and making sure I know what's happening. I need to officiate players who are transitioning down the court, and I need to know where the action is developing in a quick transition in order to be best positioned.

I've never been told in camp or otherwise to turn and run and not look back. I have been told in camp that I was waiting to long to turn and run while still officiating.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by representing

So I guess this isn't a definite procedure, but this is what I'm teaching rookie 3-man officials when they ask me to "tutor" them.

Wow. I am shocked that you are tutoring anyone with your clear lack of rules knowledge displayed in this forum.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Wow. I am shocked that you are tutoring anyone with your clear lack of rules knowledge displayed in this forum.

Yeah, but....he "represents."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by representing

You got 4 other eyes watching the players.

And you are still expected to keep your head turned and watch as you run down court in the 6 states I've worked.

On an 84-foot court how hard is it to go from T to L, anyway? Why would you need to "put your head down and sprint" anywhere?