Home Team wear Dark

[grunewar]

Wasn't one of the reasons for us issuing the T because schools have had five years to take care of this......?

I had a situation a few months ago where a team traveled a long way to do back to back games. They too had made "an agreement" to where dark for one game and whites for another as they had games at night and in the morning and no where to really wash their uni's from one day to the next.....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Wasn't one of the reasons for us issuing the T because schools have had five years to take care of this?

And, last year, didn't we change it from five technical fouls, for the five starters, to one technical foul to cover the entire team for the whole game, so we didn't have to shoot ten technical free throws to start the game. Ten shots may be an excessive way to start the game, two shots isn't excessive, so unless the team has some written documentation from the state association, we're starting with a a technical foul penalty, and I'm calling my commissioner as soon as I can get to my cell phone.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And, last year, didn't we change it from five technical fouls, for the five starters, to one technical foul to cover the entire team for the whole game, so we didn't have to shoot ten technical free throws to start the game. Ten shots may be an excessive way to start the game, two shots isn't excessive, so unless the team has some written documentation from the state association, we're starting with a a technical foul penalty, and I'm calling my commissioner as soon as I can get to my cell phone.

Acutally, you'll not be shooting any as both teams are in violation of the uniform rule at the same time and you don't shoot double T's.

[refnrev]

So some of you and going to T up the team for not wearing something that they do not have? The schools have it worked out.... its early in the season - probably the first game... it was a mistake from the supplier.... I know what they letter of the rules states, but I also know that we interpret those rules on every call we make every tome we blow the whistle. We've all let a lot of possible T's go uncalled for a lot of reasons. I'm not going to T this up.
What if this was a tourney and we had this situation because of only available clean uniforms? A T reaks too much of the fashion police on this one for me. Start the game without the T. Play it. Notify it. If the state association is unhappy, they'll tell me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Acutally, you'll not be shooting any as both teams are in violation of the uniform rule at the same time and you don't shoot double T's.

Thanks. Good catch.

Originally Posted by refnrev

What if this was a tourney and we had this situation because of only available clean uniforms?

A tournament could be a different story. Like a mixup on who's the home and visiting team that night on a neutral court.

[jeschmit]

Don't us officials have the power to make decisions on any point not specifically covered in the rules? Just wondering if that would be one of those cases?

[refesq11]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

Don't us officials have the power to make decisions on any point not specifically covered in the rules? Just wondering if that would be one of those cases?

The problem is, it is specifically covered in the rules -- as cited above. The issue becomes, do you enforce the rule?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by refnrev

So some of you and going to T up the team for not wearing something that they do not have? The schools have it worked out.... its early in the season - probably the first game... it was a mistake from the supplier.... I know what they letter of the rules states, but I also know that we interpret those rules on every call we make every tome we blow the whistle. We've all let a lot of possible T's go uncalled for a lot of reasons. I'm not going to T this up.
What if this was a tourney and we had this situation because of only available clean uniforms? A T reaks too much of the fashion police on this one for me. Start the game without the T. Play it. Notify it. If the state association is unhappy, they'll tell me.

Here in VA the rule doesn't apply for tournaments. Also here in VA the schools are directed by the VHSL to notify the VHSL if they have such a uniform problem as stated by the OP. This has been clearly stated to officials and school representatives at each of the mandatory state rules clinics for at least the last 2 years. How about the AD properly doing their jobs and we wouldn't have to deal with it as officials?

[TonyT]

The AD took care of the problem, both teams were OK with it. Just throw up the ball and PLAY THE GAME!!!! You rulebook fanatics have no common sense. You are officiating a basketball game not performing heart surgery. This is a non issue just move on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TonyT

The AD took care of the problem, both teams were OK with it. Just throw up the ball and PLAY THE GAME!!!! You rulebook fanatics have no common sense. You are officiating a basketball game not performing heart surgery. This is a non issue just move on.

The AD had 5 years for new uniforms; this is the third season it's been a hard rule after years of warnings that it was coming. What did they do with last year's home whites? If there was a legitimate issue preventing compliance, he could have called the state. I can tell you that in my area, if this isn't enforced, the officials could expect to be taking the year off from the playoffs.

Now, apparently, the officials involved contacted their state to make sure they did it correctly and it seems they went with the way they were directed. My first call would be to my assigner, before the game started, to get his input.

I live at about 7000 feet, but I have to wonder just how thin the air is up there on your high horse.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by TonyT

The AD took care of the problem, both teams were OK with it. Just throw up the ball and PLAY THE GAME!!!! You rulebook fanatics have no common sense. You are officiating a basketball game not performing heart surgery. This is a non issue just move on.

Who say anything about not playing the game? And the AD did not take care of the problem. Taking care of the problem means contacting the state board.

You "play the game" fanatics seemed scare of the rule book and accountability.