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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 03:37pm
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How do you handle this in three-man?
The trail's position is different for 2 person. The trail (two Person) should "be positioned just behind the free throw line extended and halfway between the nearer free throw lane line extended and the sideline".
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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 03:55pm
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The trail's position is different for 2 person. The trail (two Person) should "be positioned just behind the free throw line extended and halfway between the nearer free throw lane line extended and the sideline".
Did anyone notice that the location for the C on 3-whistle and the T for 2-whistle are now written the same according to this year's Officials Manual? The diagrams always showed them approximately the same but previously the C (3-W) was to be just below the top of the key and the T (2-W) was to be just above the FT line extended. Weird.

My personal experience is that you need to be about the top of the key to see the two lane spaces on the far side or nearer the shooter. The old manual was written prior to moving the players up one position on the lane so I assumed there would be a change in the manual, it just wasn't the one that I was expecting.

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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 07:50pm
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Did anyone notice that the location for the C on 3-whistle and the T for 2-whistle are now written the same according to this year's Officials Manual? The diagrams always showed them approximately the same but previously the C (3-W) was to be just below the top of the key and the T (2-W) was to be just above the FT line extended. Weird.

My personal experience is that you need to be about the top of the key to see the two lane spaces on the far side or nearer the shooter. The old manual was written prior to moving the players up one position on the lane so I assumed there would be a change in the manual, it just wasn't the one that I was expecting.
The purpose of all mechanics is to put us where we have the best chance of seeing what we need to see. There's nothing sacred about the prescribed "spot on the floor". It is a guide, a best guess. The prime directive of mechanics is always "go where you need to go to see what you need to see." If you can see better higher up and/or closer in, then go there. I find higher and closer works better for me, so that's where I go.
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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 10:03pm
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I find higher and closer works better for me, so that's where I go.
You know where else you could go ?
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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 11:00pm
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To be roommates with Jurassic?
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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 11:34pm
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I don't see this as a big deal. A lot of us here work 3-man tableside on Friday night, and opposite on Sat afternoon. I don't see how this is any more confusing. I have one scheduled two man game this year, I'm sure we'll do just fine.
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Old Sat Oct 17, 2009, 02:55am
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I don't see this as a big deal. A lot of us here work 3-man tableside on Friday night, and opposite on Sat afternoon. I don't see how this is any more confusing. I have one scheduled two man game this year, I'm sure we'll do just fine.
The only reason I have a problem with this mechanic (and I will not be doing this very often anyway) is because you have an official that is concentrating on other things asked to communicate with a coach. In 3 Person you have almost no role in administering a FT as the Trail. In a 2 Person you have responsibility for people on the line and the FT shooter. You do not have a lot of time to talk to a coach. And in my opinion the expectation is to have a coach talk to you and you do not have a lot of time to do so. If anything I would not be surprised if many coaches get more upset if you just ignore them and you are standing in front of them. Other than this the positioning is not a big deal, but it is not going to accomplish the goal without holding up the game in my opinion. Then again I will not have to worry about this very often if at all. I just do not see this making communication easier or better.

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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 04:14pm
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The trail's position is different for 2 person. The trail (two Person) should "be positioned just behind the free throw line extended and halfway between the nearer free throw lane line extended and the sideline".
Agreed. But, at T in 3-man, you look over your shoulder just before the lead administers the ball to check for subs. Why can’t you do the same thing in the new 2-man mechanic as T? It’s actually not as big of a head turn in 2-man.
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Old Fri Oct 16, 2009, 07:47pm
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Agreed. But, at T in 3-man, you look over your shoulder just before the lead administers the ball to check for subs. Why can’t you do the same thing in the new 2-man mechanic as T? It’s actually not as big of a head turn in 2-man.
The problem is the kid who sneaks up just after you've checked.
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