Iowa Girls Experimentation with two halves

[tw1ns]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

This will make for some screwy girls/boys doubleheaders.

How will screw up the double header? Because the clock would be different? That is easy. Set it and go....
what was screwy was when the lane assignments on a free throw were different between girls and boys.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tw1ns

How will screw up the double header? Because the clock would be different? That is easy. Set it and go....
what was screwy was when the lane assignments on a free throw were different between girls and boys.....

Ask someone who has been officiating basketball in Iowa for roughly 20 years or so how a screwy double header looks.

Originally Posted by tw1ns

How will screw up the double header? Because the clock would be different? That is easy. Set it and go....
what was screwy was when the lane assignments on a free throw were different between girls and boys.....

Because there's ucking fidiot parents who will be screaming "why did you allow the girls to do that???" or "why didn't you let the girls do that?" The parents forget the fact there's two different associations and sometimes the girls' association likes to do something much different.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Because there's ucking fidiot parents who will be screaming "why did you allow the girls to do that???" or "why didn't you let the girls do that?" The parents forget the fact there's two different associations and sometimes the girls' association likes to do something much different.

Which makes this change funny, in my view, because I know the Girls Union had been moving in recent years towards fewer adaptations and more conformity with the Fed.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I know the Girls Union...............

All the girls in your state are in a union! So.....they have shop stewards observe what happens in the back seat at a drive-in to make sure there's no union violations?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

All the girls in your state are in a union! So.....they have shop stewards observe what happens in the back seat at a drive-in to make sure there's no union violations?

To give a serious answer to an obviously unserious question, the governing bodies for Iowa high school athletics are the Iowa High School Athletic Association (boys) and the Iowa High School Girls Athletic Union (girls).

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To give a serious answer to an obviously unserious question, the governing bodies for Iowa high school athletics are the Iowa High School Athletic Association (boys) and the Iowa High School Girls Athletic Union (girls).

Have you ever known Padgett to be serious?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Have you ever known Padgett to be serious?

Negative Ghost Rider.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Which makes this change funny, in my view, because I know the Girls Union had been moving in recent years towards fewer adaptations and more conformity with the Fed.

With power and control comes the irresistible urge to change things. Besides, if the two sides ever really converged completely, one bureaucracy would be redundant. And that is a situation too frightening to contemplate.

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

With power and control comes the irresistible urge to change things. Besides, if the two sides ever really converged completely, one bureaucracy would be redundant. And that is a situation too frightening to contemplate.

Yeah, yeah, but the girls union would always have bowling, volleyball, and softball.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Yeah, yeah, but the girls union would always have bowling, volleyball, and softball.

Boys have bowling still

-Josh

[jdmara]

It would be very nice for all the officials to have one association. It's a pain in the butt to remember to register with both associations/unions because the dates you can register are different (or at least have been in the past). I've heard of officials going through the entire basketball season, doing both girls and boys games, then getting to the end of the season and not getting a tourney game. After investigating the issue, they come to find out that they were never registered for the girls' union Opps!

-Josh

Originally Posted by jdmara

Boys have bowling still

-Josh

I didn't realize that till you mentioned it. Went on the IHSAA website and saw that. Interesting...so the only girls sports that doesn't have a "counterpart" at the boys association are softball and volleyball, right? Looking at both websites gives me a headache sometimes.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

With power and control comes the irresistible urge to change things. Besides, if the two sides ever really converged completely, one bureaucracy would be redundant. And that is a situation too frightening to contemplate.

There were a lot of rules for a few years that were hold-overs from the six-player era. A few years ago, they started drifting towards conformity; even going as far as removing the coaching box adaptation and moving the girls back down on the free throw lane (funny in hind sight).

Since there are other sports involved, I doubt they'll ever consolidate the state level organizations. I'm not sure how many other states have separate governing bodies for girls verses boys, either.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

There were a lot of rules for a few years that were hold-overs from the six-player era. A few years ago, they started drifting towards conformity; even going as far as removing the coaching box adaptation and moving the girls back down on the free throw lane (funny in hind sight).

Since there are other sports involved, I doubt they'll ever consolidate the state level organizations. I'm not sure how many other states have separate governing bodies for girls verses boys, either.

I am not aware of any other states that operate this way. The only thing remotely similar I've heard of was when Michigan (Minnesota?) ran boys and girls basketball seasons separately. If there are other states that operate with separate boys and girls organizations, I think we'd have heard about it here. And for all the same reasons we've heard about Iowa.

Speaking of the Michigan controversy, I'm surprised nobody in Iowa has gone berserk over having separate organizations for boys and girls sports. Surely somebody trouble maker is going to argue that it's some kind of Title IX violation, and that "separate but equal" is not only illegal but unconstitutional. I'm not arguing for that to happen, just surprised that it hasn't.