few misc questions

[Nevadaref]

NCAA rules require the it to be a try for goal in order for a reset of the shot clock. A pass or loose ball striking the ring wouldn't warrant a reset.

[mutantducky]

is that the same in high school? can't really remember reading about that. NCAA rule sounds good to me

[mutantducky]

can a try for a call be shot that hits the ground first if it is on purpose. more of a H-O-R-S-E shot but I suppose it could be done.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

is that the same in high school? can't really remember reading about that. NCAA rule sounds good to me

Yes, same in high school, but without the shot clock (in most states).

Originally Posted by mutantducky

can a try for a call be shot that hits the ground first if it is on purpose. more of a H-O-R-S-E shot but I suppose it could be done.

A try ends when it hits the floor. This would affect scoring (2 or 3 points) or shot clock resets (college).

[mutantducky]

so if the ball is bounced off the floor, horn to end game and then the ball goes in, disallow the basket? ha, that would be a wacky ending.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

so if the ball is bounced off the floor, horn to end game and then the ball goes in, disallow the basket? ha, that would be a wacky ending.

That is correct. You will most likely want to make a bee-line for the exit at this point.

[mutantducky]

bzzzz. uno mas which is related to the last.

accidental baskets are counted like a player tipping the ball in for the wrong team or in the rare case a pass being deflected and into the basket. If something like that happened and say a pass goes off someone's head and there clearly isn't a try for a goal and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air then would the shot not count? I'm thinking yes it would count.

kind of thinking why the ball bouncing off the floor wouldn't count and if those would. If the buzzer goes off before the ball hits the floor then sure I see that but if it is in the air then the buzzer goes off. Anyways, it would be really cool to see that. (maybe to ref it not so much)

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

NCAA rules require the it to be a try for goal in order for a reset of the shot clock. A pass or loose ball striking the ring wouldn't warrant a reset.

New York State HS rules do not have this requirement. The ball striking the ring results in a reset of the shot clock.

[mutantducky]

on this, just want to make sure.
5.2.1 SITUATION D: Following the free throws for a technical foul, A1 makes a
throw-in from out of bounds at the division line opposite the table. The throw-in
pass is deflected at A’s free-throw line by: (a) A2; or (b) B1 and it then goes directly
through A’s basket. RULING: Score two points for Team A in both (a) and (b).
The throw-in ended when the ball was touched by an inbounds player and the live
ball subsequently passed through the basket. The fact it was not a tap or a try for
goal does not affect the scoring of two points. (4-41-4)
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So in the first if there is no shot for goal even if it goes off A, say off the head, time expires and then the ball goes in that would mean NO Basket?
2. Can the team on Defense have a try for a goal at the wrong basket. B1 shoots, time off, basket in goes in.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

So in the first if there is no shot for goal even if it goes off A, say off the head, time expires and then the ball goes in that would mean NO Basket?
2. Can the team on Defense have a try for a goal at the wrong basket. B1 shoots, time off, basket in goes in.

1) That's correct.

2) A try, by definition, is at your own basket. If you "attempt to throw the ball through your opponent's basket" it's not a try, and so the ball becomes dead when time expires.