few misc questions

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

kind of in responses to some of the other posts I've been reading. And also because I just had a few cups of green tea and my mind is a bit fuzzy right now.

One, on those trick plays you see or maybe just one on accident. player catches a pass and before dribbling tosses the ball to the side or over the defenders head and gets the ball again. Is the player allowed to dribble or grab the ball? How do you tell what is dribble or a pass in this situation

2. If shot goes through the rim from underneath is that a violation right away and is play stopped. If the ball goes underneath and hits the net and rim but goes not go through is that the same? If it isn't a violation I assume the shot clock would continue and a player would be allowed to get the ball and dribble again. edit--------------
3. What is your favorite color and who is Biggles.

1. As long as the ball bounces before he grabs it, it's legal. He can either hold it or dribble it at this point. If, however, he holds it then dribbles again, it's an illegal dribble violation.

2. As soon as the ball goes up through the rim, it's a violation.

2a. It's not a violation until and unless it goes up through the rim from the bottom.

2b. No clue on the shot clock, but the player should be allowed to retrieve the ball and start a new dribble. My guess is the shot clock would reset if it was even remotely resembling a shot attempt.

3. 7

[Nevadaref]

NCAA rules require the it to be a try for goal in order for a reset of the shot clock. A pass or loose ball striking the ring wouldn't warrant a reset.

[mutantducky]

is that the same in high school? can't really remember reading about that. NCAA rule sounds good to me

[mutantducky]

can a try for a call be shot that hits the ground first if it is on purpose. more of a H-O-R-S-E shot but I suppose it could be done.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

is that the same in high school? can't really remember reading about that. NCAA rule sounds good to me

Yes, same in high school, but without the shot clock (in most states).

Originally Posted by mutantducky

can a try for a call be shot that hits the ground first if it is on purpose. more of a H-O-R-S-E shot but I suppose it could be done.

A try ends when it hits the floor. This would affect scoring (2 or 3 points) or shot clock resets (college).

[mutantducky]

so if the ball is bounced off the floor, horn to end game and then the ball goes in, disallow the basket? ha, that would be a wacky ending.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

so if the ball is bounced off the floor, horn to end game and then the ball goes in, disallow the basket? ha, that would be a wacky ending.

That is correct. You will most likely want to make a bee-line for the exit at this point.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

NCAA rules require the it to be a try for goal in order for a reset of the shot clock. A pass or loose ball striking the ring wouldn't warrant a reset.

New York State HS rules do not have this requirement. The ball striking the ring results in a reset of the shot clock.

[mutantducky]

on this, just want to make sure.
5.2.1 SITUATION D: Following the free throws for a technical foul, A1 makes a
throw-in from out of bounds at the division line opposite the table. The throw-in
pass is deflected at A’s free-throw line by: (a) A2; or (b) B1 and it then goes directly
through A’s basket. RULING: Score two points for Team A in both (a) and (b).
The throw-in ended when the ball was touched by an inbounds player and the live
ball subsequently passed through the basket. The fact it was not a tap or a try for
goal does not affect the scoring of two points. (4-41-4)
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So in the first if there is no shot for goal even if it goes off A, say off the head, time expires and then the ball goes in that would mean NO Basket?
2. Can the team on Defense have a try for a goal at the wrong basket. B1 shoots, time off, basket in goes in.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

So in the first if there is no shot for goal even if it goes off A, say off the head, time expires and then the ball goes in that would mean NO Basket?
2. Can the team on Defense have a try for a goal at the wrong basket. B1 shoots, time off, basket in goes in.

1) That's correct.

2) A try, by definition, is at your own basket. If you "attempt to throw the ball through your opponent's basket" it's not a try, and so the ball becomes dead when time expires.