Closely Guarded Dilemma

Originally Posted by Zoochy

There are senior officials who preach that they will not cal a CG if the play is moving E-W nor will they call Hand Checking when the play is moving E-W.
They consider both of them as 'game interupters'.

That's odd, I've been to a couple of camps so far this summer that preached hand checks on E-W plays fall under RSBQ & should be an immediate whistle.

On N-S drives to the bucket, they wanted a patient whistle on hand checks to allow the player to finish under the SDF philosophy.

[Hugh Refner]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

RSBQ.....SDF

OK, guys. Although I'm far from being a rookie, I'm a rookie here. Long version, please. Thanks.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Hugh Refner

OK, guys. Although I'm far from being a rookie, I'm a rookie here. Long version, please. Thanks.

RSBQ = Rhythm, Speed, Balance, Quickness....if any are negatively affected, it is a foul.

However, even being a veteran of the board, I have no idea what SDF is.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

RSBQ = Rhythm, Speed, Balance, Quickness....if any are negatively affected, it is a foul.

However, even being a veteran of the board, I have no idea what SDF is.

I don't know either, but I have some thoughts:

Save Da Foul?

Slow Da Flow?

Solid Delayed Foul?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

On N-S drives to the bucket, they wanted a patient whistle on hand checks to allow the player to finish under the SDF philosophy.

SOME DAMN FOOL might have ruined this play with a quick whistle.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That's odd, I've been to a couple of camps so far this summer that preached hand checks on E-W plays fall under RSBQ & should be an immediate whistle.

On N-S drives to the bucket, they wanted a patient whistle on hand checks to allow the player to finish under the SDF philosophy.

Originally Posted by Hugh Refner

OK, guys. Although I'm far from being a rookie, I'm a rookie here. Long version, please. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

RSBQ = Rhythm, Speed, Balance, Quickness....if any are negatively affected, it is a foul.

However, even being a veteran of the board, I have no idea what SDF is.

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

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Otherwise known as "See the whole play" or see the "Beginning, Middle, end End" or "Have a patient whistle". This is one that appears to have several variations of names that all really mean the same thing.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Otherwise known as "See the whole play" or see the "Beginning, Middle, end End" or "Have a patient whistle". This is one that appears to have several variations of names that all really mean the same thing.

"Let 'em play"

[lmeadski]

I tried to articulate team A trying to stall out the balance of the game by moving the ball across the court, not advancing to the hoop, and avoiding a closely guarded call. As B1 came up on A1 to induce a chop, A1 would dribble parallel to the half court line. B1 trailed behind him to the other side within a 6 foot radius. The coach was screaming for closely guarded, but, I couldn't make that call as B1 was squarely behind A1. It wasn't that he had his back turned to him. It's probably that I have never seen anyone, HS, NCAA or pro ever call closely guarded in this scenario. However, I think we can admit we see it regularly, especially in HS or JR high.

[Adam]

I think you could justify either way in your scenario, frankly. I would agree that this does not likely represent guarding, however, especially if he's just walking. Get in front, in his path, or between the dribbler and the basket. Or, if the offensive player was really trying to retreat and the defender was moving quickly to keep pace, I would call it.

It's not the direction necessarily, in other words.

And I've never seen this play happen, period. The defender should try to steal the ball or get in front of the moving dribbler, if the dribbler was only walking.

[bob jenkins]

I think "path" needs to be defined by the defender, not by the offensive player.

If the defender is trying to prevent the offensive player from getting to (or toward) the basket, then the count stops when the head and shoulders are closer to the basket.

In this play, the defender is trying to prevent (I guess) the defender from going back W-to-E, so I'd still have a count -- or a violation.