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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 09:50am
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I said no such thing...

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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 09:56am
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Contact during a dead ball should be ignored unless it's considered to be intentional or flagrant.
Your comment leads me to believe you allow hip-checking that knocks someone to the floor in basketball. Silly me, I thought that was only in boys hockey!
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 09:57am
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I was looking for an officials read on the sitch.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 10:17am
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I was looking for an officials read on the sitch.
Your sitch is a judgment call & not being on that particular game, I can't really say as I did not see the play. HTBT

I did provide you with the rule though...

I didn't know we were talking about ME, but in my games as the T, I'm staying with the shooter even after I wave the shot off. If I judge that the defender hip checked purposely as opposed to incidental contact, then we've got an intentional foul.

If after the hip check the defender walks by or stands over the shooter & has something to say, perhaps it's a flagrant.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:19am
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Your comment leads me to believe you allow hip-checking that knocks someone to the floor in basketball. Silly me, I thought that was only in boys hockey!
Yes, silly you, he is quoting what the rule book says, which is the contact should be ignored unless it is intentional or flagrant.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:27am
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Contact, even violent contact, does not always constitute a foul. 'Town's first sentence quoted the rule and all that needs to be said on the situation.

I'm thinking the girl in question was the OP's daughter. If not, I'm wondering why he seems to have such an emotional stake in this.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:32am
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Flagrant.
Does anyone know the definition for flagrant?
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:34am
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Not my daughter...just apalled at what I saw and asked the coach about it after the game.

It was rough game and out of control - the coach agreed.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:45am
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Not my daughter...just apalled at what I saw and asked the coach about it after the game.

It was rough game and out of control - the coach agreed.
It's 11U girls. It's crap basketball to begin with. Why are you surprised that it was rough and out of control?
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:42am
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Does anyone know the definition for flagrant?
The rulebook definition basically means any act that violent or savage in nature, or a technical foul that involves no contact which displays unacceptable conduct.

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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:46am
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Thanks JR
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 10:10am
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I said no such thing...

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There must be an echo in my building. My Vice President for Academic Affairs just said that this morning!
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