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After the 1st half buzzer.
I saw this at a 5th grade/11U girls game this last weekend. Player A1 brings the ball aross halfcourt and desperately tries to launch a shot before the clock runs out but her shot is clearly a second or two after the buzzer. In the act of shooting Player B1 hip-checks Player A1 into a heap on the floor. One official said he saw nothing and the other said it was after the buzzer, I have nothing.
What is the correct call? Do you consider ejecting B1 for unsportsman-like conduct? Is there a foul if it's a) after the 1st half buzzer b)end of game?
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Contact during a dead ball should be ignored unless it's considered to be intentional or flagrant. It would have to be a technical foul NOT personal. That being said, unsporting alone does not mean ejection.
The situation you describe is completely up to the judgement of the officials. |
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So, Ch1town, you're saying it's ok to rough a player up a little as long as it's after the buzzer? No one is at a disadvantage here since it is a dead ball?
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If the contact meets the definition of an intentional or a flagrant foul, then it should be called an intentional or a flagrant techincal foul. If it doesn't meet that definition, then it's not a foul. |
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Are you looking for an answer to your original question or are you looking for validation of your opinion?
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Your sitch is a judgment call & not being on that particular game, I can't really say as I did not see the play. HTBT
I did provide you with the rule though... I didn't know we were talking about ME, but in my games as the T, I'm staying with the shooter even after I wave the shot off. If I judge that the defender hip checked purposely as opposed to incidental contact, then we've got an intentional foul. If after the hip check the defender walks by or stands over the shooter & has something to say, perhaps it's a flagrant. |
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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. RogersUmp, I will save you the trouble of your next post by writing it for you: So, SamIAm, you're saying "You can show words to a jacka$$, but you can't make him understand." Then my next post will be: YES!
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Yes, silly you, he is quoting what the rule book says, which is the contact should be ignored unless it is intentional or flagrant.
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Contact, even violent contact, does not always constitute a foul. 'Town's first sentence quoted the rule and all that needs to be said on the situation.
I'm thinking the girl in question was the OP's daughter. If not, I'm wondering why he seems to have such an emotional stake in this. |
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