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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 01:28am
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For the coaches on here

Team A inbounding ball near division line.

Player A goes jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches pass from player B, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?
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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 02:41am
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Team A, player A1, inbounding ball from OOB in team A's frontcourt.

Player A2 jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches direct pass from player A1, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?
Fixed..., if you're directing this at coaches, you gotta break it down...
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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 06:18am
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During a throwin, or jump ball, any player; or a defensive player, in making a steal; may legally jump from his or her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor, and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or the backcourt. These three situations are not backcourt violations.
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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 06:40am
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Team A inbounding ball near division line.

Player A goes jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches pass from player B, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?
Are you saying player B1 steals and controls the throw-in?
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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 08:24am
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Are you saying player B1 steals and controls the throw-in?

No, he's using "A" and "B" to refer to players on the same team, instead of the standard of using "A" and "B" to designate teams and "A1" and A2" to designate teammates.

I don't know why he's asking coaches specifically, but the play is not a violation.
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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 12:41pm
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Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?
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Payer A1
For those of you not familiar with our terminology, "Payer A1" is used to indicate the captain of team A purchased foul insurance for his team from the officials.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 09:28am
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Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?
Why do you need us when you just could have pulled out the case book?
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 09:36am
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Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?
This experienced coach says both are legal.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 02:11pm
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Talking Waddabout this one?

A1 inbounding in his FC, passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

Serious answers only, please
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 02:14pm
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A1 inbounding in his FC, passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

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Did A3 have control when he "'saves' the ball from landing in BC" ?
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 02:16pm
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A1 inbounding in his FC,
No such thing.

And, it doesn't matter from where A1 is inbounding the ball.

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passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

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If A3's "save" constituted team control, then it's a BC violation. Otherwise, it's a legal play.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 02:28pm
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Serious answers only, please
Dang, that apparently leaves me out.

Well, let me answer by asking yet one other question: was team control ever established in your sequence? If not, then it doesn't matter how many players it bounces off of, or where they are, or in what order.

The only item that could establish team control is if you consider A3's save to be player control, and thus team control. Remember that even a "controlled tap" is not considered player control; A3 must actually hold the ball, even if only for a slight moment.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 10:58pm
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No such thing.

And, it doesn't matter from where A1 is inbounding the ball.

Please don't dissect my 'red herring'!!!!

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