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Johnny Ringo Sat Apr 18, 2009 01:28am

For the coaches on here
 
Team A inbounding ball near division line.

Player A goes jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches pass from player B, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?

justacoach Sat Apr 18, 2009 02:41am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 596579)
Team A, player A1, inbounding ball from OOB in team A's frontcourt.

Player A2 jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches direct pass from player A1, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?

Fixed..., if you're directing this at coaches, you gotta break it down...

BillyMac Sat Apr 18, 2009 06:18am

Who You Gonna Call ??? Mythbusters ...
 
During a throwin, or jump ball, any player; or a defensive player, in making a steal; may legally jump from his or her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor, and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or the backcourt. These three situations are not backcourt violations.

Indianaref Sat Apr 18, 2009 06:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 596579)
Team A inbounding ball near division line.

Player A goes jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches pass from player B, while both feet are in the air and lands in the backcourt.

And we have .... nothing, correct?

Are you saying player B1 steals and controls the throw-in?

bob jenkins Sat Apr 18, 2009 08:24am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 596589)
Are you saying player B1 steals and controls the throw-in?


No, he's using "A" and "B" to refer to players on the same team, instead of the standard of using "A" and "B" to designate teams and "A1" and A2" to designate teammates.

I don't know why he's asking coaches specifically, but the play is not a violation.

Johnny Ringo Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:41pm

Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?

Mark Padgett Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 596633)
Payer A1

For those of you not familiar with our terminology, "Payer A1" is used to indicate the captain of team A purchased foul insurance for his team from the officials.

Johnny Ringo Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:47pm

Those typos get me everytime!

Raymond Mon Apr 20, 2009 09:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 596633)
Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?

Why do you need us when you just could have pulled out the case book? ;)

CoachP Mon Apr 20, 2009 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 596633)
Correct Payer A1 with the throw in - passes to A2 who jumps from FC while in the air catches ball and lands in BC ... just needing all you experienced officials to confirm this is legal.

Another one: Player A1 is inbounding ball ... his/her pass to A2 is high and tipped by A2 in the FC. A2 then recovers and controls basketball in BC. No othe rplayers touched the ball ... also legal. Correct?

This experienced coach says both are legal.

justacoach Mon Apr 20, 2009 02:11pm

Waddabout this one?
 
A1 inbounding in his FC, passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

Serious answers only, please

Raymond Mon Apr 20, 2009 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 596868)
A1 inbounding in his FC, passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

Serious answers only, please

Did A3 have control when he "'saves' the ball from landing in BC" ?

bob jenkins Mon Apr 20, 2009 02:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 596868)
A1 inbounding in his FC,

No such thing.

And, it doesn't matter from where A1 is inbounding the ball.

Quote:

passes ball to A2. A2 tips the ball into the air toward the division line. Heroically, A3 comes flying in, jumps from the FC and 'saves' the ball from landing in BC. Ball caroms off A2 who is standing in the FC and is caught by A3 who just landed in the BC?
In deference to Mark P, I specifically renounce any further complications by Daylight Saving Time or reference to the International Date Line.

Serious answers only, please
If A3's "save" constituted team control, then it's a BC violation. Otherwise, it's a legal play.

M&M Guy Mon Apr 20, 2009 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 596868)
Serious answers only, please

Dang, that apparently leaves me out.

Well, let me answer by asking yet one other question: was team control ever established in your sequence? If not, then it doesn't matter how many players it bounces off of, or where they are, or in what order.

The only item that could establish team control is if you consider A3's save to be player control, and thus team control. Remember that even a "controlled tap" is not considered player control; A3 must actually hold the ball, even if only for a slight moment.

justacoach Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:58pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 596872)
No such thing.

And, it doesn't matter from where A1 is inbounding the ball.


Please don't dissect my 'red herring'!!!!

Thx


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