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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 10:32am
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NCAA Mechanic for Team Control

Looking the back of the book -- it appears there is no mechanic for team control fouls.

So for instance, for an illegal screen what signal are you giving?
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 10:45am
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I've seen officials give the blocking foul signal for an illegal screen
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 11:34am
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The mechanics I've seen:

1. whistle (raised fist optional)
2. point the other way
3. signal the nature of the foul (pointing to perp optional)
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 11:38am
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There is no mechanic given for NCAA-M...check out page 173 of the rule book for the correct signal for NCAA-W. The "punch" is the correct signal for a team control foul in NCAA-W. That can be followed by other signals (block, push, etc) to explain what the foul was.
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 03:11pm
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Yea, sorry meant to clarify for men. Block sounds sellable to me.

The women's signals are great though -- they are the only league that has an "official" signal for "Hit to the head"
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 05:46pm
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The "punch" is the correct signal for a team control foul in NCAA-W. That can be followed by other signals (block, push, etc) to explain what the foul was.
I've seen the other signal given first, then the punch. Which is correct?
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Old Thu Apr 09, 2009, 10:41pm
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The punch should come first.
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 10:24am
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The punch should come first.
Is this true for NFHS too?
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 10:45am
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Is this true for NFHS too?
I don't know if NFHS has a specific order, but I definitely do the punch at the spot of the foul, then either the punch or block/hold/push/hit signal at the table to clarify, if needed. Remember, the purpose of signals is communication. The punch tells people you have a foul on the offense, you will be going the other direction, and there will not be any FT's shot if the team is in the bonus. If you signal a block first (say on an illegal screen), players/coaches might think you have a foul on the defense, then when you signal the punch next they might think you changed your mind, creating unneeded confusion. Using the punch first definitely signifies a foul on the offense; then if there is still a question, you can signal the specific foul at the table along with the punch, or simply verbalize the infraction.
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 11:26am
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Is this true for NFHS too?
Unless I'm mistaken, the NFHS specifies only the punch...nothing more.
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 11:56am
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Unless I'm mistaken, the NFHS specifies only the punch...nothing more.
That's my understanding based on our state rules meeting.
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Unless I'm mistaken, the NFHS specifies only the punch...nothing more.
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That's my understanding based on our state rules meeting.
Actually the NF wants to the punch and the fouls signal at the site. That is according to a PowerPoint slid I saw recently.

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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 12:28pm
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The women's signals are great though -- they are the only league that has an "official" signal for "Hit to the head"
Why is that needed? It is illegal use of hands. I don't see why a signal is needed to indicate where the other player got hit.
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 12:35pm
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Why is that needed? It is illegal use of hands. I don't see why a signal is needed to indicate where the other player got hit.
Communication. Sometimes it's not clear what happened & although it's not an approved mechanic at the level I work, when I've used it (at the spot NOT the table) it clearly communicates to all what exactly happened on the play.
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Old Fri Apr 10, 2009, 02:20pm
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The women's signals are great though -- they are the only league that has an "official" signal for "Hit to the head"
Do they also have an "official" signal for "hit to the shoulder"?

"Hit to the stomach"?

Hit to the knee"?

"hit to the "?

If not, why not?
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