African American Officials in the NCAA Tourney

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Of course it is all because you say so. I think Larry Rose not only has the credibility (than anyone here) to make such a claim based on his background and his current job. Rose is involved with institutions that deal with African-Americans on a much more intimate level.

The purpose of such groups is simply to represent their constituents in a way to maximize their gain. Equality is not their goal. Any representative group is not doing its job if they don't try to obtain the most representation possible for the people being represented....even if it is beyond equality. The arguments of inequality, at some point, just become a tool to gain even more after the real issue of inequality has been addressed and neutralized.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The purpose of such groups is simply to represent their constituents in a way to maximize their gain. Equality is not their goal. Any representative group is not doing its job if they don't try to obtain the most representation possible for the people being represented....even if it is beyond equality. The arguments of inequality, at some point, just become a tool to gain even more after the real issue of inequality has been addressed and neutralized.

You brought up the percentages, I did not do that. This was not and is not about percentages. Equality is about giving people an equal opportunity.

What I do love, is the minute people here do not get an opportunity, it is all about politics. That is widely accepted here, but any mention of inequality that cannot be even mentioned. God forbid anyone even talks about that.

Peace

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How do you define equal opportunity?

As in the other similar thread, my question is what is the best way to promote that opportunity? Something similar to Tiger Woods' First Tee?

Here was an interesting link - which covers the racial and gender background of every possible participant in college sports EXCEPT officiating. I draw no conclusion from that omission - it was just surprising to me. http://www.tidesport.org/RGRC/2008/2008CollegRGRC.pdf

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You brought up the percentages, I did not do that. This was not and is not about percentages.

No, I didn't bring them up. The OP did.

No matter how much you try to sugar coat it, it is about numbers/percentages Read the OP....

Originally Posted by Cmoore

It was very interesting and noteworthy that the lack of a fair number of African American officials in the 2009 NCAA men's division I tourney prompted Larry Rose...

There was an obvious lack of an African American presence in the Sweet 16 for sure. As many African Americans that play basketball, there should be greater representation of African American officials...especially since there are a very high number of QUALIFIED African American officials, who simply have not received their chance yet.

Does the OP believe that there are also not a very high number of QUALIFIED non African Americans who have not received their chance yet?

Originally Posted by Cmoore

We'll see how much we (AA) stick together on this one...

The original poster's point, motive, and attidute is so morally and ethically wrong on so many levels.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Equality is about giving people an equal opportunity.

Agree, but that is not the topic of the orignal post....it was about numbers....even if the facts show the opposite of what he would like people to believe.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What I do love, is the minute people here do not get an opportunity, it is all about politics. That is widely accepted here, but any mention of inequality that cannot be even mentioned. God forbid anyone even talks about that.

Peace

Exactly. You want equality, just not equal equality.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Exactly. You want equality, just not equal equality.

Yes Camron, whatever you say.

Peace