NCAA Women's Rule Changes

[ranjo]

I bounce between AAU girls and boys in the off-season. The boys use NFHS rules and the girls play using womens NCAA rules with a shot clock.

With all due respect to Doris Burke, I personally like the girls rules because:
1. They enter the lane on the release when shooting free throws.
2. I'm not swinging my arm going up the court every time.
3. The game is played in halves and not quarters.
4. The 30 second shot clock keeps the game moving.
5. There is a count if the ball is being held and a defender is guarding with-in
three feet.

On the other hand, I would rather work boys games, because of their quickness and ability to play thru minor contact.

Just my opinion -

[bas2456]

I see why they eliminated the 10 second count, but I've never agreed with it.

Just add 5 seconds to the shot clock and have a ten second count. This is basketball.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by ranjo

With all due respect to Doris Burke, ...

Doris Burke is the equivalent of Billy Packer but without whatever redeeming qualities Billy had.

[dbking]

The one other major difference is the closely guarded rule applies to the entire court, not just the front court.

[GoodwillRef]

I don't think they will change either one...the women like being different than the men. I do think they will change the primary coverage areas to what the men and NFHS have this year.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Doris Burke is the equivalent of Billy Packer but without whatever redeeming qualities Billy had.

Billy Packer has redeeming qualities? I'll take Doris over Billy anyday!

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by ranjo

I bounce between AAU girls and boys in the off-season. The boys use NFHS rules and the girls play using womens NCAA rules with a shot clock.

With all due respect to Doris Burke, I personally like the girls rules because:
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2. I'm not swinging my arm going up the court every time.

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You need to work out more if this is a problem

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

You need to work out more if this is a problem

Actually Ranjo has some decent guns.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Actually Ranjo has some decent guns.

If I have guns, than BadNewsRef has cannons - I'm just an older miniature version of him, including reffing ability.

[Texas Aggie]

Don't have an opinion on the backcourt count, but I would like to do away with all closely guarded counts, except when they are holding the ball. I don't remember the last 5 second count I called, so it isn't really a problem. Also, we have games on courts of all sizes. When the division line is farther away from the baseline, the offense has an advantage under the current rules; when it is closer, the defense has an advantage. Besides, I've seen defenses pick up cheap 5 second calls and its not always good defense, plus it can be very discretionary.

However, holding the ball is not a basketball play so it is needed there. To me its more important to keep the game moving than to call a meaningless violation 30-40 feet from the basket. Now, they can amend the current rule to make it apply only within the three point arc, but outside it isn't needed.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

You need to work out more if this is a problem

I know you said that in fun, but how often do you get a 10 second call in a season? Do you count when there is no press on?

Actually, when moving from back to frontcourt, I try to use the game or shot clock to count the seconds instead of moving my arm in some kind of rhythmic motion. That way if a coach questions your time management, you can tell him what was on the clock when you started your count. It kind of catches some of them by surprise that you would know that.

[eyezen]

[QUOTE=ranjo;592913]I know you said that in fun, but how often do you get a 10 second call in a season?

Maybe a half dozen to a dozen.

Do you count when there is no press on?

Definitely, not all presses start at the moment the ball is inbounded. And I've had 10 sec calls that were not at all related to pressing situations.

Actually, when moving from back to frontcourt, I try to use the game or shot clock to count the seconds instead of moving my arm in some kind of rhythmic motion. That way if a coach questions your time management, you can tell him what was on the clock when you started your count. It kind of catches some of them by surprise that you would know that

That's great and all, but what happens if something happens while you're finding the time on the clock (was it a clean steal or foul; quick poke oob, who was it off of), "Coach I'm not sure what I saw because I was looking at the clock, but it I do know it happened at 6:47"
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[ranjo]

Actually, when moving from back to frontcourt, I try to use the game or shot clock to count the seconds instead of moving my arm in some kind of rhythmic motion. That way if a coach questions your time management, you can tell him what was on the clock when you started your count. It kind of catches some of them by surprise that you would know that

That's great and all, but what happens if something happens while you're finding the time on the clock (was it a clean steal or foul; quick poke oob, who was it off of), "Coach I'm not sure what I saw because I was looking at the clock, but it I do know it happened at 6:47"
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I have gotten into the habit of sneaking a peak at the clock quite often in the course of a game, especially on an inbound or after a whistle to make sure the timer has properly started or stopped the clock. It was something I had to learn to do until it became almost natural. The location of the clock in some older gyms makes it risky to glance away, but so far the only thing I know I have missed were a couple of travels. However your point is well taken.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by ranjo

Actually, when moving from back to frontcourt, I try to use the game or shot clock to count the seconds instead of moving my arm in some kind of rhythmic motion. That way if a coach questions your time management, you can tell him what was on the clock when you started your count. It kind of catches some of them by surprise that you would know that

That's great and all, but what happens if something happens while you're finding the time on the clock (was it a clean steal or foul; quick poke oob, who was it off of), "Coach I'm not sure what I saw because I was looking at the clock, but it I do know it happened at 6:47"
/QUOTE]

I have gotten into the habit of sneaking a peak at the clock quite often in the course of a game, especially on an inbound or after a whistle to make sure the timer has properly started or stopped the clock. It was something I had to learn to do until it became almost natural. The location of the clock in some older gyms makes it risky to glance away, but so far the only thing I know I have missed were a couple of travels. However your point is well taken.[/QUOTE]
Until we have 11-person officiating crews working games, officiating will always be a game of tradeoffs. No matter what topic we're discussing, there's always the risk of missing A because we were watching B. C'est la vie.