Stay out of my pond!

[refguy]

Anyone besides Jeff care to answer those scenarios?
You just agreed that there are situations during a game where there are no primary areas, and where the diagram in the book is irrelevant to who should blow the whistle. And just because you have a player or two in your primary according to the book doesn't mean that's where you should officiate. Officiate the closest competitive match-up not the wood or players that are just standing there picking their nose. I would hope as an instructor you are teaching this? BTW. those 2 players that may have been in the L's primary weak side were good examples of nose pickers.

Originally Posted by refguy

Anyone besides Jeff care to answer those scenarios?

It's tough to answer your situations because there are no absolutes or always in officiating. PCAs/diagrams are meant to serve as a guideline, but I'm learning that the main thing is about open looks.
Sometimes the official with the best open look isn't the one who should be making the call... we must decide whether going to get it or passing will help THE GAME.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

It's tough to answer your situations because there are no absolutes or always in officiating. PCAs/diagrams are meant to serve as a guideline, but I'm learning that the main thing is about open looks.
Sometimes the official with the best open look isn't the one who should be making the call... we must decide whether going to get it or passing will help THE GAME.

Care to elaborate? You state that the main thing is to get an open look, and then follow up by saying whoever has the best look shouldn't make the call? Like maybe the C calling a rebound foul on weak side block when both L and T are stacked? Or C officiating the help side defender on a baseline drive in front of the Lead?
Players dictate where we should be looking - not the book. The book serves as a great starting point.

Originally Posted by refguy

Care to elaborate? You state that the main thing is to get an open look, and then follow up by saying whoever has the best look shouldn't make the call?

Did I say that??
"Sometimes the official with the best open look isn't the one who should be making the call"
It just depends...

Originally Posted by refguy

Like maybe the C calling a rebound foul on weak side block when both L and T are stacked?

I would hope the C is weak side in most cases and the L probably shouldn't be making that call anyway.

Originally Posted by refguy

Or C officiating the help side defender on a baseline drive in front of the Lead?

Great teamwork!

Originally Posted by refguy

Players dictate where we should be looking - not the book. The book serves as a great starting point.

We agree, but there are so many factors when determining if reaching out is worth it & then there is also the timing.

I believe if you reach, the whistle should be a little late, Give the official who is supposed to make the call an opportunity to make it. Maybe he/she was being patient on the contact.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

It's tough to answer your situations because there are no absolutes or always in officiating. PCAs/diagrams are meant to serve as a guideline, but I'm learning that the main thing is about open looks.
Sometimes the official with the best open look isn't the one who should be making the call... we must decide whether going to get it or passing will help THE GAME.

What do you mean?

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by refguy

[B] BTW. those 2 players that may have been in the L's primary weak side were good examples of nose pickers.

What if those two guys get there elbows up while going for the gold?

[Old_School]

Originally Posted by refguy

Anyone besides Jeff care to answer those scenarios?

Still trying to find somebody that will agree with your nonsense?

Why don't you put down something like:
"Do not respond unless you also think that officials should watch for phantom fouls all all the court!"
or--
"Do not respond if you understand why the court is divided into "primary zones."
or--
"Do not respond unless you agree with me."

Does that cover everything that you're looking for?

Good luck with that.

Maybe you can try another forum? One where there's fanboys who don't understand officiating and will agree with you.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by refguy

Anyone besides Jeff care to answer those scenarios?

Originally Posted by Old_School

Still trying to find somebody that will agree with your nonsense?
Why don't you put down something like:
"Do not respond unless you also think that officials should watch for phantom fouls all all the court!"
or--
"Do not respond if you understand why the court is divided into "primary zones."
or--
"Do not respond unless you agree with me."

Does that cover everything that you're looking for?

Good luck with that.

Maybe you can try another forum? One where there's fanboys who don't understand officiating and will agree with you.