When coaches run things

[tomegun]

Tell me what you think of this hypothetical (wink) situation.

What if coaches had the power to block an official? Nothing out of the ordinary except coaches use it when an official handles business correctly. Of course, when this happens there is no investigation to see if the block is justified - the official is just blocked. Oh yeah, it isn't out of the ordinary for a coach to say "You will never come to my school again" during a game.

That is high school.

What if a coach could call the assigner and tell him he didn't want to see an official and when that happens enough the assigner fires the official because "I can't send you anywhere." Again, no investigation to see if it is justified.

Additionally, coaches say all kinds of things like "Hey, can you tell Joe to quit calling those p***y fouls" and no technical foul is given. Coaches ride officials on a nightly basis.

When certain things happened the assigner asked why the officials didn't give a coach a technical foul. Keep in mind, the official can get "fired" for handling business correctly, but on the other hand can be in the "doghouse" for not handling business.

That is college basketball and the assigner is a D1 official who goes deep in the tournament every year.

Let me change my location!

[Adam]

I didn't realize you were in Vegas now, Tom. When did that happen?

It sure would be horrible for somoene to have to put up with that crap; might make a person re-consider his desire to officiate.

[tomegun]

Well, I retired from the Air Force and moved back home to Vegas. I've only been back for a week. It feels good to be back.

[Adam]

Congrats on the retirement. I was assuming a PCS to Nellis. I'll be heading your way in April for work, hope the weather is good.

So, back to your OP. You talking about the Gulf Coast issues you hinted at so often?

Never mind, I forgot this was hypothetical.

[tomegun]

Yes, it is hypothetical. And yes, it does make you wonder why you even bother to leave the house.

I would imagine, if this was a real situation, that $75 for a double-header isn't too good either.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Well, I retired from the Air Force and moved back home to Vegas. I've only been back for a week. It feels good to be back.

Congrats my man! I hope to see you this summer.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Well, I retired from the Air Force and moved back home to Vegas.

Congrats on your retirement! Well deserved I'm sure. Enjoy!!

Keep an eye on Tricare!! (One military retiree to another! )

[Raymond]

Tomegun, I'll be in Vegas in May for a wedding. I'm pretty sure you know the groom. I'm still at Langley so you know my email address. Send me an email.

[zebraman]

Active coaches should not have input to which officials work their games or rating of officials. Officials end up scared to take care of business. I've also seen it lead to officials spending WAY to much time with coaches, both before and during games.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It sure would be horrible for somoene to have to put up with that crap; might make a person re-consider his desire to officiate.

Yeah, but you don't really, really think anything like that really ever happens, do you??? I mean, what kind of an assignor would that be?? And who would want to keep working for that assignor????

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Yeah, but you don't really, really think anything like that really ever happens, do you??? I mean, what kind of an assignor would that be?? And who would want to keep working for that assignor????

It's almost as if you two are having a conversation, except for the part that involves actually saying something intelligible.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

It's almost as if you two are having a conversation, except for the part that involves actually saying something intelligible.

It's almost as if you could figure some things out, except for the part where you can't.

I work for an assignor who is very similar to the one described in the OP. This assignor accepts calls from coaches within minutes of the conclusion of a game, and then calls the officials shortly after - many times before we are even out of the parking lot. This assignor allows coaches to complain about things and then reschedule games to pacify the complaining coach. It is ridiculous, and has caused many of us to reconsider officiating at one time or another.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It's almost as if you could figure some things out, except for the part where you can't.

I work for an assignor who is very similar to the one described in the OP. This assignor accepts calls from coaches within minutes of the conclusion of a game, and then calls the officials shortly after - many times before we are even out of the parking lot. This assignor allows coaches to complain about things and then reschedule games to pacify the complaining coach. It is ridiculous, and has caused many of us to reconsider officiating at one time or another.

OK, well that certainly sounds sucky.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It's almost as if you could figure some things out, except for the part where you can't.

I work for an assignor who is very similar to the one described in the OP. This assignor accepts calls from coaches within minutes of the conclusion of a game, and then calls the officials shortly after - many times before we are even out of the parking lot. This assignor allows coaches to complain about things and then reschedule games to pacify the complaining coach. It is ridiculous, and has caused many of us to reconsider officiating at one time or another.

Thank you for your honesty. The sad truth is this happens and it isn't about coaches liking and/or respecting officials. It is the way our society is going: the person who makes the most noise doesn't have to be right.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It's almost as if you could figure some things out, except for the part where you can't.

I work for an assignor who is very similar to the one described in the OP. This assignor accepts calls from coaches within minutes of the conclusion of a game, and then calls the officials shortly after - many times before we are even out of the parking lot. This assignor allows coaches to complain about things and then reschedule games to pacify the complaining coach. It is ridiculous, and has caused many of us to reconsider officiating at one time or another.

Assignors I work for have a policy of not accepting any coach calls until the day after a game. The coach gets a cooling off period and then can make a better determination if a call is warranted. If they still call, the 1st question the supervisor will ask is, "Did you watch the tape?" If the answer is no, click. We feel good about working for those who back us.
A while back I worked for a high school association which had a policy that allowed a school principal to buy officials off a game - the coach had not the authority to do so. IOW, the official scheduled for the game would be paid a full game fee by the school in question not to do the game. Of course the assignor would then switch that official to another site and he would get paid for that game plus the one he didn't do. Our assignor would then look at the rest of the schedule and if that official was not scheduled for that school anymore that season, he would schedule him there at least one or two more times. That way he would test the coach to see if it was a temporary thing. If they wanted to continue to pay the official for not working, great!!
There was a running joke amongst us to see who could get a coach to buy him off so we could get paid for 2 to work one.
Again, we felt good about working for those who back us.