Inbounding - foul?

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If the defender commits the foul, you call the intentional foul. If the defender breaks the plane, and then the thrower makes contact, I say you call the violation/technical foul.

My point however facitous was that the defender has to break the plane to comit the foul. So the enforcment of both seems to be overkill and had a prior warning been issued you could have two technicals for one action.

and while some have said fai has nothing to do with it I desagree we are asked to make similar calls on similar plays so I am thinking this would be one of those scenarios.

[Juulie Downs]

But OHBHRUIFLEEF they're not similar plays. One has a set of rules prescribed for it, and the other does not. Can't get much more dissimilar than that.

Also, for the ball-handler to push away the arm of the defender, is indeed a basketball play. You'd NEVER call it intentional if that same motion happened inbounds, unless it was for excessive roughness.

FOM is, this sitch shouldn't happen. DOG should be called as soon as defender reaches across. If there's enough time of the defender having body parts oob that the ball-handler feels that he has to reach out and push body parts away, ref isn't doing his/her job.

Unless in the OP, the contact happend on the inbound side of the plane. Then the ball-handler is an idiot and deserves to be called for a common foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

My point however facitous was that the defender has to break the plane to comit the foul. So the enforcment of both seems to be overkill and had a prior warning been issued you could have two technicals for one action.

You don't enforce both, and you don't have two Ts. Enforce the "final action" only. See the case book.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You don't enforce both, and you don't have two Ts. Enforce the "final action" only. See the case book.

I agree Bob
But the issue I was trying to get across was that you had to see and consider the whole play and make the call other wise you could end up with a whole lot more on your hands than you barganed for.