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Old Fri Feb 20, 2009, 11:28pm
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3 man T.O. mechanics

We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 12:06am
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We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?
Top of the key for a 30 second timeout. On the block on the far laneline for full timeouts.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 01:46am
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We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?
For 2-man? You're doing it completely wrong then. Our association has told us that the official that administers the TO at the table stands at the spot of the throw-in after the timeout. (Others on here say they do it differently in other areas) The other official stands at the front of the center jump circle for a 30 second timeout and at the back of the circle for a 60 second timeout.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 01:47am
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Top of the key for a 30 second timeout. On the block on the far laneline for full timeouts.
For 2-man or 3-man? For 2-man this is totally wrong. For 3-man it is partially correct. The administering official stands with the ball at the spot it is to be thrown in at. The other two stand at the top of the key for a 30 second TO and on the blocks opposite the benches for a 60 second TO.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 01:47am
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so whats the position of all 3 in a 3 man crew for full and 30 seconds?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 01:51am
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so whats the position of all 3 in a 3 man crew for full and 30 seconds?
See my last post.

Administering official stands with the ball at the spot of the throw in. The other two stand either at the top of the keys (30 sec TO) or on the blocks opposite the table (60 sec TO).
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 03:49pm
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When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 03:51pm
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. The other two stand at the top of the key for a 30 second TO and on the blocks opposite the benches for a 60 second TO.
That's what he wrote.

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When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?
Yes.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 03:53pm
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When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?
For mechanics purposes, there is table side and opposite side. The blocks opposite would be the ones that are not table side. Yes, you face the benches so you can see the players. When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.
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For mechanics purposes, there is table side and opposite side. The blocks opposite would be the ones that are not table side. Yes, you face the benches so you can see the players. When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.
How about when your table is on the opposite side of the court from the benches and subs check in at the water fountain near the division line?

2-man time out mechanics switched a couple of years ago.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 05:45pm
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Yes.
That's what who wrote? Someone one talking about going to the top of the key or blocks in 2-man, I was correcting that. I was asking Viper if he was talking about 2 or 3 man because he wasn't very clear.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 07:01pm
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How about when your table is on the opposite side of the court from the benches and subs check in at the water fountain near the division line?
In that case, you would stand on the international date line facing the north pole and talk to Jon Diebler.
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When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.
Many officials around here are sloppy about this step. I see coaches keeping their players till after the second horn often. I will politely remind them before we get started, "Coach, please break your huddle after the first horn." Haven't had a problem using this approach, and compliance has been excellent.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 11:08am
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Many officials around here are sloppy about this step. I see coaches keeping their players till after the second horn often. I will politely remind them before we get started, "Coach, please break your huddle after the first horn." Haven't had a problem using this approach, and compliance has been excellent.
I've noticed around here, I'm the only one who seems to say this as the R in pregame with the coaches. And you're right, it works.
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