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UNH IM Ref Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:28pm

3 man T.O. mechanics
 
We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?

TheViper Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:06am

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Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581723)
We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?

Top of the key for a 30 second timeout. On the block on the far laneline for full timeouts.

zm1283 Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:46am

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Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581723)
We ref primarily with the 2 man crew but are sending a few officials to BU for the regional nirsa tournament this year and so I'm trying to prepare them for 3 man crews. What is the proper positioning for timeouts in the 3 man?

For that matter what is the proper 2 man position, we usually just go to the top of each key. Is that correct?

For 2-man? You're doing it completely wrong then. Our association has told us that the official that administers the TO at the table stands at the spot of the throw-in after the timeout. (Others on here say they do it differently in other areas) The other official stands at the front of the center jump circle for a 30 second timeout and at the back of the circle for a 60 second timeout.

zm1283 Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:47am

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Originally Posted by TheViper (Post 581733)
Top of the key for a 30 second timeout. On the block on the far laneline for full timeouts.

For 2-man or 3-man? For 2-man this is totally wrong. For 3-man it is partially correct. The administering official stands with the ball at the spot it is to be thrown in at. The other two stand at the top of the key for a 30 second TO and on the blocks opposite the benches for a 60 second TO.

UNH IM Ref Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:47am

so whats the position of all 3 in a 3 man crew for full and 30 seconds?

zm1283 Sat Feb 21, 2009 01:51am

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Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581749)
so whats the position of all 3 in a 3 man crew for full and 30 seconds?

See my last post.

Administering official stands with the ball at the spot of the throw in. The other two stand either at the top of the keys (30 sec TO) or on the blocks opposite the table (60 sec TO).

UNH IM Ref Sat Feb 21, 2009 03:49pm

When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?

BktBallRef Sat Feb 21, 2009 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 581748)
. The other two stand at the top of the key for a 30 second TO and on the blocks opposite the benches for a 60 second TO.

That's what he wrote.

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Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581874)
When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?

Yes.

Adam Sat Feb 21, 2009 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref (Post 581874)
When you say on the blocks opposite the benches do u mean the blocks furthest from the benches? and do you face the benches during the T.O.?

For mechanics purposes, there is table side and opposite side. The blocks opposite would be the ones that are not table side. Yes, you face the benches so you can see the players. When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.

shishstripes Sat Feb 21, 2009 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 581876)
For mechanics purposes, there is table side and opposite side. The blocks opposite would be the ones that are not table side. Yes, you face the benches so you can see the players. When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.

How about when your table is on the opposite side of the court from the benches and subs check in at the water fountain near the division line?

2-man time out mechanics switched a couple of years ago.

zm1283 Sat Feb 21, 2009 05:45pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 581875)
That's what he wrote.



Yes.

That's what who wrote? Someone one talking about going to the top of the key or blocks in 2-man, I was correcting that. I was asking Viper if he was talking about 2 or 3 man because he wasn't very clear.

Adam Sat Feb 21, 2009 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by shishstripes (Post 581882)
How about when your table is on the opposite side of the court from the benches and subs check in at the water fountain near the division line?

In that case, you would stand on the international date line facing the north pole and talk to Jon Diebler.

mbyron Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:17am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 581876)
When the first horn sounds, signaling 15 seconds remaining in the TO, you will go to the huddle on your side of the court and remind them that it's time to get going so you can get play started quickly after the 2nd horn.

Many officials around here are sloppy about this step. I see coaches keeping their players till after the second horn often. I will politely remind them before we get started, "Coach, please break your huddle after the first horn." Haven't had a problem using this approach, and compliance has been excellent.

Adam Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:08am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 582014)
Many officials around here are sloppy about this step. I see coaches keeping their players till after the second horn often. I will politely remind them before we get started, "Coach, please break your huddle after the first horn." Haven't had a problem using this approach, and compliance has been excellent.

I've noticed around here, I'm the only one who seems to say this as the R in pregame with the coaches. And you're right, it works.


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