Jump or OOB Vio?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Amesman

The exception being, of course, if it's an inbounder who's out of bounds (now there's a mind bender at first) at the time of a held ball.

Aren't all inbounders out-of-bounds? If not, they must then be inbounds (the opposite of out of bounds). When they become inbounds, they have violated, and therefore are no longer inbounders, since the ball is dead.

[shishstripes]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Aren't all inbounders out-of-bounds? If not, they must then be inbounds (the opposite of out of bounds). When they become inbounds, they have violated, and therefore are no longer inbounders, since the ball is dead.

I get what he saying, if the thrower reaches the ball through the plane and the defender grabs the ball causing a held ball call, you can have one person OOB in this case.

[UNH IM Ref]

Originally Posted by shishstripes

I get what he saying, if the thrower reaches the ball through the plane and the defender grabs the ball causing a held ball call, you can have one person OOB in this case.

Well in that case I have a T for not giving the inbounder enough space.

I know we're going off the OP a bit here but I wanted to make sure the inbounder is allowed to hand the ball off to a teammate, or would it be a same team heldball that would result in a travel or OOB vio. ?????

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref

Well in that case I have a T for not giving the inbounder enough space.

I know we're going off the OP a bit here but I wanted to make sure the inbounder is allowed to hand the ball off to a teammate, or would it be a same team heldball that would result in a travel or OOB vio. ?????

Not necessarily so. If there's enough room for the inbounder to back off the endline, there is no reason for the defender to "give enough space" or the official to declare an imaginary boundary line on the court.

Inbounder may reach across the endline plane to inbound the ball but may not "hand off" to teammate.

[UNH IM Ref]

So 2 things: a defender CAN grab the ball only if the inbounder is holding it over the OOB plane? and when the inbounder hands off to his own teammate that would be just an inbounding vio? or is it OOB vio?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by UNH IM Ref

So 2 things: a defender CAN grab the ball only if the inbounder is holding it over the OOB plane? and when the inbounder hands off to his own teammate that would be just an inbounding vio? or is it OOB vio?

Yes, the defender can grab the ball only if the thrower holds it across the line.

A hand off is simply a violation. It's not out of bounds.

[Nevadaref]

If player with OOB status contacts the ball it is an OOB violation on that player per 7-2-2.

It is a throw-in violation if the thrower hands the ball to an inbounds teammate. The ball must be passed per 9-2-2.