Proper Mechanics Questions (NFHS)

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Scooby

In Sit. 2 the calling official is going from lead to trial. This is a switch. He is staying on the table side, as he should because he called the foul. He did it right. This is assuming that the foul was on the defense and that the teams are staying at that end of the court.

Staying on the table side has nothing to do with switching in two-person mechanics. You go opposite of where your partner is.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Staying on the table side has nothing to do with switching in two-person mechanics. You go opposite of where your partner is.

Yup, in that case, you switch on "every" foul. Some dont do it, but its the proper mechanic in 2-person.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Yup, in that case, you switch on "every" foul. Some dont do it, but its the proper mechanic in 2-person.

Proper, yes. Stupid, too.

I worked with a guy who moved in from a state where there was a big emphasis on the reporting area and switching. So, after a rebound, he had a foul. He came all the way to center court, reported, and then I had to run half a court length to administer the throw-in and he had to cross the court to become the lead.

My regular partners would call the foul, clear the players, report the foul, slide right back (just like 3-person). I wouldn't move a step. Which movement makes more sense and allows for a better observing of players during the process?

[referee99]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Proper, yes. Stupid, too.

Again, switch all fouls is the mechanic. You can really showcase your cohesion and athleticism as a team by nailing this. At the same time, to keep flow of the game and coverage of players, I pre-game an audible option here.

Non-calling official should force the switch. Frozen eyes, active feet.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by referee99

Again, switch all fouls is the mechanic. You can really showcase your cohesion and athleticism as a team by nailing this. At the same time, to keep flow of the game and coverage of players, I pre-game an audible option here.

Non-calling official should force the switch. Frozen eyes, active feet.

Stooooooopid.

You can really showcase your common sense by not long switching in this situation. Perhaps someday 2-person mechanics will catch up to the 3-person ones already in the book.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Stooooooopid.

You can really showcase your common sense by not long switching in this situation. Perhaps someday 2-person mechanics will catch up to the 3-person ones already in the book.

Agreed. While I usually switch on all fouls, including long-switching, I like working 3-person mechanics a LOT better. I think 2-person mechanics sometimes make it hard to observe players as the non-calling official.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Stooooooopid.

You can really showcase your common sense by not long switching in this situation. Perhaps someday 2-person mechanics will catch up to the 3-person ones already in the book.

I know a lot of associations choose to ignore, but this is the prescribed mechanic in the book: Switch on all fouls. Non-calling official force the switch.

And, I believe the mechanics manual only comes out every other year(?) because no new one this year. So, your manual is the current one.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by referee99

I know a lot of associations choose to ignore, but this is the prescribed mechanic in the book: Switch on all fouls. Non-calling official force the switch.

And, I believe the mechanics manual only comes out every other year(?) because no new one this year. So, your manual is the current one.

I don't have ANY manual. I misplaced last year's -- that was my point.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Stooooooopid.

You can really showcase your common sense by not long switching in this situation. Perhaps someday 2-person mechanics will catch up to the 3-person ones already in the book.

Rich,
Personally, I have always found the "no-long-switch" mechanic to slow the 3-man game down. I don't mind running a little while waiting to put the ball in play. The players are frequently confused as to where the ball is to be inbounded when they see the old lead/new trail stepping out to call the foul. Everyone then has to wait for the old lead/new trail to go back into his position and administer the throw-in.

I work with various partners in both 2-man and 3-man. I find that I stay much more focused on the game when proper mechanics are used. When the officials are hustling into position while watching the players, the game can really move. I much prefer to long switch on "no-long-switch" situations in 2-man. The game definitely moves faster albeit with a little more running on the part of the officiating crew.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Rich,
Personally, I have always found the "no-long-switch" mechanic to slow the 3-man game down. I don't mind running a little while waiting to put the ball in play. The players are frequently confused as to where the ball is to be inbounded when they see the old lead/new trail stepping out to call the foul. Everyone then has to wait for the old lead/new trail to go back into his position and administer the throw-in.

I work with various partners in both 2-man and 3-man. I find that I stay much more focused on the game when proper mechanics are used. When the officials are hustling into position while watching the players, the game can really move. I much prefer to long switch on "no-long-switch" situations in 2-man. The game definitely moves faster albeit with a little more running on the part of the officiating crew.

Officials who move with a purpose can keep a game moving regardless of the mechanics used. My most frequent partner and I do not long switch and there is very little dead time regardless of what is called.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Rich,
Personally, I have always found the "no-long-switch" mechanic to slow the 3-man game down. I don't mind running a little while waiting to put the ball in play. The players are frequently confused as to where the ball is to be inbounded when they see the old lead/new trail stepping out to call the foul. Everyone then has to wait for the old lead/new trail to go back into his position and administer the throw-in.

I work with various partners in both 2-man and 3-man. I find that I stay much more focused on the game when proper mechanics are used. When the officials are hustling into position while watching the players, the game can really move. I much prefer to long switch on "no-long-switch" situations in 2-man. The game definitely moves faster albeit with a little more running on the part of the officiating crew.

I don't like the long switch in 3 whistle game. It just seems to not be needed when there are 3 officials on the floor. It's a slide when moving from BC to the FC, and that is how I pregame it.
However in a 2 whistle game, I do pregame one situation where a long switch is OK. Team B is pressing Team A in Team A's BC. The new L is hanging back helping his/her P, and there is an OOB or a violation on the new T's side of the court that will give the ball back to Team B. It seems to me easier (and more timely - although I do understand Rich's opposite view) for the old L to now become the new L.

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Staying on the table side has nothing to do with switching in two-person mechanics. You go opposite of where your partner is.

That was my point that going from trail to lead was that switch, not whether he administared the throw in from table side.