You aren't allowed here......

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

We did have a situation a few weeks ago where we had a female member on the 3-whistle crew and had to share one office. Luckily, the office had a bathroom, so female partner went in there to change while the men used the office and then announced to our partner we were decent. We had no arguements about this set-up, as it was a small school and they were limited on space, even so bad to the point the locker rooms for the teams were down the hall and around the corner from the gym, and just around the corner from our room.

Another situation I had was in a big high school which has a smaller gym on an upper floor away from the main gym. I was escorted to a classroom, where the female teacher was still working on grading, and I had no expectation of privacy for changing, so I went to a bathroom down the hallway to change. My partner arrived just as I was returning to the classroom, and I told him he might want to change in the bathroom. He saw why I said that, but got to be an a** about it and went into a corner she couldn't see and changed anyway (he had his undergarments on). Gutsy. I relayed my concerns about this to the site administrator, and her response was, you should have come prepared knowing you would be in a classroom to change. I wanted to respond that I had never changed in that classroom before, it was always the boys' coaches' locker room off the main gym, but bit my tongue and emailed the AD. The AD didn't apologize, only repeating the same thing the site administrator said. That email got forwarded to the assigner as soon as it popped up on my email.

Ridiculous.

Good job. Will your assignor handle it, or what about your local President, or even the school board. For an administrator or AD to insist that expected changing facilities is a classroom is pathetic.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Ridiculous.

Good job. Will your assignor handle it, or what about your local President, or even the school board. For an administrator or AD to insist that expected changing facilities is a classroom is pathetic.

Ridiculous, yes. I wasn't going to answer her, perhaps because I was the only white guy standing there while talking with her in the hallway. Didn't need a few African-American svelte ladies going off on me.

We've always had to pass concerns along to the sub-varsity assignor first (if it's sub-varsity related), then he will pass it along to the association president (who happens to be the varsitiy assignor as well) to share at the AD meeting. Whether he publically states the issue in general terms, or pulls aside the specific AD, I have no idea, though, but sometimes it has to happen several times to other officials before it really becomes an issue worth the ADs' attention.

[eemich10]

This has been a problem for me as well. I make sure I'm there WAY ahead of time so I can change before my partner if need be. Most schools are very accomadating, but I've changed in bathroom stalls (with spectators!), closets, a laundry room at a tech school, and a home-economics classroom with open shades that did not close. I was once even treated as an inconvenience, with the assistant coach asking why they assigned a female ref to a boys game (reported him to assignor!)

My feeling is if there is and office with an inner bathroom, thats fine for opposite sex partners to change.

[just another ref]

......or you could just go to the game dressed to officiate.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

......or you could just go to the game dressed to officiate.

That's funny.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

......or you could just go to the game dressed to officiate.

If I knew that there was going to be a problem dressing before a game, I would agree with this 100%. We have a school in our geographic area that is undergoing renovations. We've been informed that the only place for officials to change is in a small bathroom. Our local assigner, as well as the president of our local board, has suggested that we come to the game in uniform.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have been reading this thread with great interest. I have officiated boys'/girls' Jr. H.S. and H.S. basketball in Ohio, Michigan, California (H.S. only), and Florida (H.S. only). The only problem I ever had was in the Miami-Dade County, Florida, during the mid-1970's.

The AD's in Dade County expected you to come to the games dressed; and the schools did not even provide a place for the officials who came to the game already dressed to have a pre-game conference. Furthermore, they expected you to sit in the stands at half-time. I didn't know this when I arrived at my first ever H.S. game in Florida; the Home AD let me know that he was not happy that he had to find a secure place for me to dress and keep my belongings. He told me that if I was scheduled again at his school, I had better be dressed to go (me: ROFLMAO, ). I never once went to a game already dressed to officiate. I really made a number of AD's mad, but I have talked to officials from that area of Florida now and guess what? Nobody goes to games already dressed to officiate.

There is absolutely no reason for a school not to provide a secure place for an officials' dressing room. There is no way I would dress in rest room. Of course we do not have that problem in Ohio and Michigan, except for Rita's particular problem.

MTD, Sr.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

There is absolutely no reason for a school to provide a secure place for an officials' dressing room. There is no way I would dress in rest room. Of course we do not have that problem in Ohio and Michigan, except for Rita's particular problem.

MTD, Sr.

I would not either.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

There is absolutely no reason for a school to provide a secure place for an officials' dressing room.

It was funnier when you left out the "not".