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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 12:39pm
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I don't mind first names. JR is right, though, you're taking too much. And frankly, I take less in middle school than in high school. Ask him much sooner what his question is.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 01:00pm
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I try not to use a coach's first name during the game - it's always "Coach" or "Coach Smith". But I have no problem with them using my first name...as Mick said, it gets my attention. With all of the "Hey Ref" stuff coming from the stands, I want the coach to be able to get my attention when they need to. It's what comes after the name that matters - in other words, if they say "Hey DJ, give me a 30 second time-out." we are fine. If they say "Hey DJ, you suck tonight." then we have a problem!

The other thing that will happen as you become more "well-known" in an area is that table crews will begin to know your name also. At least at schools where the clock operator, scorekeeper, etc.. are the same people all the time. It really isn't that big of a deal.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 02:31pm
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 01:08pm
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I kinda agree with Snack and JR. But with this issue I may be a middle of the road type of guy. They can say hey Steve didn't he get bumped I have no problem but when it becomes an ongoing berating of my name then I have an issue. And to go back to this thread and threads of the past Coaches will respect you more for doing what is right ALL THE TIME. If they are deserving of a T give them one don't worry about getting scratched or whatever the case may be. One thing that frustrates me as I watch the JV games that precedes my game is some younger officials that allow coaches to walk all over them. Stand up to them, once you do you will gain respect. BUT there is a fine line. When I say stand up to them you need to do so in a professional manner. The other thing that I see is we have officials that have this big EGO trip as soon as they put the shirt and whistle on. If you want to be respected as an official you need to give respect to coaches. Answer their questions when they can be answered. A read an article that was written by a NCAA ref and it made a good point when talking to coaches. It's ok to allow coaches to have the last word every now and again. Because as officials we have the final word.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 03:14pm
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And frankly, I take less in middle school than in high school. Ask him much sooner what his question is.
The lower the age group the worse the coaches are in regards to chirping about calls.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 03:18pm
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The lower the age group the worse the coaches are in regards to chirping about calls.
Which is why you nip it early and stop it.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 04:53pm
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I have several coaches address me by my first name. I don't have any problem with it. If they know me that well, they know using my name won't get them anything special.

Coaches are generally very good about remembering names.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 05:06pm
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Its not a big deal. Calling me by my first name doesn't grant them any special privledges, and if the opposing coach thinks otherwise then who cares. We certainly dont care to much about coaches opinions about our calls and the job we have to do, why should we start thinking different here.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 05:31pm
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Here is my question

when you introduce yourselves to the coach what do you say I'm Mr Green or I'm Kelvin? (your names of course) We intorduce ourselves by full name or by first name..

Its not the name that matters it is how they use it... If you have reffed for coaches a lot, you know their names too..

I have no problem (if they arent being idiots and disrespectful) to say things like

Hey Kelvin watch the illegal screen next time down, or Kelvin give me a timeout... Its where they are being dinks and I dont care if they call be by first name or Mr President they wont get away with the garbage stuff.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 05:51pm
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Here is my question

when you introduce yourselves to the coach what do you say I'm Mr Green or I'm Kelvin? (your names of course) We intorduce ourselves by full name or by first name..

Its not the name that matters it is how they use it... If you have reffed for coaches a lot, you know their names too..

I have no problem (if they arent being idiots and disrespectful) to say things like

Hey Kelvin watch the illegal screen next time down, or Kelvin give me a timeout... Its where they are being dinks and I dont care if they call be by first name or Mr President they wont get away with the garbage stuff.
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 08:23pm
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From my limited college experience, I've found that about half of the coaches prefer to use first names of the officials. I don't have a problem with it, but like many others here, I always refer to them as "coach" in return. I'm actually impressed when they can remember the first names of their three officials for that night - although seeing long-time veterans over the course of a regional coaching career makes it easier, I'm sure.

Half the time I can't even remember who the visiting team is going to be before I walk onto the court, or what the final score was as soon as I leave the confines.

And not to make any uninformed personal judgments or anything, but your long-time friend's an a$$.
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... I'm actually impressed when they can remember the first names of their three officials for that night - although seeing long-time veterans over the course of a regional coaching career makes it easier, I'm sure.
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They have an assistant whose job is to find out the names of the officials and write them down for the H/C so he can call out your name during the game.
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