Welmer Out; MSU vs KU

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

1. Using one hand to report numbers.

2. Raising our hand to stop the clock on violations.

But how will the timers know?

[Nevadaref]

Kansas vs. Michigan State - Recap - January 10, 2009 - ESPN

"The game was officiated for the last 24-plus minutes by two officials because veteran referee Steve Welmer limped off the court with an injured right foot."

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I wonder what will be seen as silly 20 years from now that we do today?

Reporting a blarge as a double foul.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

2. Raising our hand to stop the clock on violations.

So how would it work when there is a double whistle with one official wanting to call a violation and the other a foul?

Originally Posted by just another ref

Reporting a blarge as a double foul.

That is the rule, it is not a mechanics issue.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LDUB

So how would it work when there is a double whistle with one official wanting to call a violation and the other a foul?

Doesn't hurt them in the NBA. I also work with (and sometimes resemble) a guy who frequently calls a PC foul with a point in the other direction. No blarges in 20+ years and if I had one it wouldn't exactly be the end of the world.

That is the rule, it is not a mechanics issue.

It's still silly.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

But how will the timers know?

Clock will stop automattically due to the sensors in our brains knowing we're going to blow the whistle. Timers will no longer be neccessary.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Clock will stop automattically due to the sensors in our brains knowing we're going to blow the whistle. Timers will no longer be neccessary.

Or, they'll just hear the whistle. Oh wait, that's what they do now.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Fractured foot. Lots of assignments are going to have to be re-filled over the next 2 months.

I can rearrange my schedule.........

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

1. Using one hand to report numbers.

2. Raising our hand to stop the clock on violations.

1)diasagree, as I'm not good at it!

2)Strongly agree.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Or, they'll just hear the whistle. Oh wait, that's what they do now.

My point (literally and figuratively) exactly.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Since I started in the mid-80s, I can tell you all about it. You kept the players right (whether lead or trail) always. You would cross over as the trail at the first opportunity. Throw-ins could put both officials on the same side of the court as the lead would administer and the slide over to the other side of the court.

Me too. The trail would dictate the rotation. As the lead, you had to get used to different partners. Some would rotate too quickly, they were obviously uncomfortable working opposite, as it was called back then, even if there was a key matchup in their area. Other partners would take their time working opposite. I remember that I had a partner who once who suggested, in a low level game, that we work opposite for an entire period, just for fun. I remember this experience as being surreal (I definitely have been reading too many of mbyron's posts lately).

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by LDUB

So how would it work when there is a double whistle with one official wanting to call a violation and the other a foul.

The same way it works now, the same way it works in the NBA and NCAA.

If there's a double whistle, I raise my hand and you raise your fist, we come together and discuss.

If there's a double whistle, I don't raise my hand and you raise your fist, we come together and discuss.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

1)diasagree, as I'm not good at it!

I bet you weren't good at bouncing the ball to the FT shooter or thrower but you've perfected it by now.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If there's a double whistle, I raise my hand and you raise your fist, we come together and discuss. If there's a double whistle, I don't raise my hand and you raise your fist, we come together and discuss.

Good mechanic. Rookie officials pleae tazke note.

[MOofficial]

I dont know for 100% sure but I think the Welmer injury is affecting all levels of college ball. Reason I say this is because I have an NAIA D1 game tomorrow in the Kansas City area and our R has been removed from the game and replaced. Our original R for the game works in the big 12 and was working the K-State vs. Ok game Saturday, so I'm wondering if he had to go fill in somewhere for the Big 12....