Interesting T

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

"to the rafters...." Really?

So, what at what height is the dividing line between "automatic T" and telling the little sh!t to knock it off?

(I'm kinda enjoying channeling our Ancient Dinosaur.)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

So, what at what height is the dividing line between "automatic T" and telling the little sh!t to knock it off?

(I'm kinda enjoying channeling our Ancient Dinosaur.)

It's somewhere between 5 feet and the rafters.

Now, STFU.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's somewhere between 5 feet and the rafters.

Now, STFU.

A player can bounce the ball in anger as high as he wants, but if the ball comes down it is a TF, .

MTD, Sr.

[deecee]

Ill give the kid the benefit of the doubt here. Its not like this is a rampantly occuring item during games where we need to worry about will the kid learn a lesson or not from a T or not T. Either way he will learn, as long as someone tells him.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by deecee

Either way he will learn, as long as someone tells him.

So, let me get serious for a second - are you saying you would not penalize unsporting behavior, as long as "someone tells him"? Do you not call a travel on a drive to the basket, as long as the coach tells him, "Good move, except you traveled on that; don't do that anymore"?

What if the other team asks if you screwed them out of a couple of FT's and a possesion because you didn't make the proper call? As long someone tells the player, it's ok?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

So, let me get serious for a second - are you saying you would not penalize unsporting behavior, as long as "someone tells him"? Do you not call a travel on a drive to the basket, as long as the coach tells him, "Good move, except you traveled on that; don't do that anymore"?

What if the other team asks if you screwed them out of a couple of FT's and a possesion because you didn't make the proper call? As long someone tells the player, it's ok?

I can always count on someone on this forum to compare apples to oranges. How often have you seen this?

Im 8 years I can probably count on less than half the fingers on one hand how many times I have. I think consensus among players are that you cannot do this. The 1 in 5-10 years I see this and it goes down the way I said it would have to, to not get a T, I will act accordingly.

Now to anticipate the next "what if" -- if now every player in that game starts doing this, well then once one player gets his quick little "cut that out" chat I will T. but again, we can argue what ifs until we get carpral tunnel. But this isnt really an issue that comes up often at all. Spiking is pretty much a football move.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by deecee

I can always count on someone on this forum to compare apples to oranges.

It's apples and kumquats, by the way. Get it right.

Originally Posted by deecee

How often have you seen this?

Not very often, but how often I've seen it doesn't matter. I was commenting on your statement about simply talking to a player when you see (very likely) unsporting behavior instead of penalizing it.

It's been a couple of years snce I had a coach literally get in my face to protest a call. But, even though I haven't seen it that often, I will still penalize it when I do, rather than try to wait for "someone to tell them" they shouldn't do that.

Frequency of occurance isn't a good barometer on when to talk to a player and when to penalize.

[Adam]

Quickest way for him to learn is with a T. And no coach in the world will question a T on a ball bounced to the rafters. Neither would any assigner that I know of. I'd have a harder time justifying not calling this when the other coach wonders why it wasn't called and asks my assigner.

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by deecee

Ill give the kid the benefit of the doubt here. Its not like this is a rampantly occuring item during games where we need to worry about will the kid learn a lesson or not from a T or not T. Either way he will learn, as long as someone tells him.

I can't disagree with you more.....In this situation, you give him the T even HE expects, and then give him counseling (if you so desire.) He knows he earned the T, and he will disrespect you for not giving it to him...IMHO....

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

A player can bounce the ball in anger as high as he wants, but if the ball comes down it is a TF, .

MTD, Sr.

I've always wanted to ask you this: what happens if the ball gets stuck up in the rafters? Do you tell the kid to go buy a lottery ticket, because this is apparently his lucky day?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I've always wanted to ask you this: what happens if the ball gets stuck up in the rafters? Do you tell the kid to go buy a lottery ticket, because this is apparently his lucky day?

ROFLMAO!!

MTD, Sr.