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Originally Posted by jevaque

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

A MS game?

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jevaque

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

A mad scramble for the ball,
A1 was legally on the floor (got there first) wasn't moving
B tripped over A going to get the ball show me where the foul is?

Now if A1 is slidding and wipes out B2 then there is a foul on A but otherwise it is ugly but there really isn't a difinative foul here.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jevaque

who all agrees with this???

PC unless the ball goes in the basket prior to contact, in which case it's just an injury time out for A1 and or B1.

By rule he's got you,
there is nothing wrong with being on the floor
there is nothing wrong with being under the basket (NBA excluded)
and as long as that position was obtained before the shooter went airborne
I do not see where the issue is.

Now making the call is something altogether different - this is one of those does it fit the game calls in my opinion.
So with my luck it happens in the first 90 seconds of the game.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

A MS game?

jevaque, sounds like you're trying to grasp some of these concepts, and perhaps you don't quite agree. Do you have a rule book handy? If so, do you have any rules basis for your disagreement?

[deecee]

JEVAQUE -- not all contact is a foul. This is one situation where its not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jevaque

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

Likely a no-call.

Coach will likely think it's "something," though. Still trying to find the signal for "something."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

By rule he's got you,
there is nothing wrong with being on the floor
there is nothing wrong with being under the basket (NBA excluded)
and as long as that position was obtained before the shooter went airborne
I do not see where the issue is.

Now making the call is something altogether different - this is one of those does it fit the game calls in my opinion.

I could agree with a no-call here as long as B1 doesn't get injured by the contact. No way it's a block, though.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Likely a no-call.

Coach will likely think it's "something," though. Still trying to find the signal for "something."

You're looking for it in the wrong place - it's listed under "Giving Him The Business".

[deecee]

The something signal is simple -- make a fist and extend the "first, middle and ring finger" but keep them pressed together. Then just ask the coach to read between the lines. There you now have "something.".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

The something signal is simple -- make a fist and extend the "first, middle and ring finger" but keep them pressed together. Then just ask the coach to read between the lines. There you now have "something.".

You really need to stop reading Padgett's rule book. It's not the official version.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You really need to stop reading Padgett's rule book. It's not the official version.

Well its the "official enough" version. Now his case book is the only one of a kind.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

You're looking for it in the wrong place - it's listed under "Giving Him The Business".

I had occasion to look up Ron Cherry's famous YouTube video of the same title in honor of his white-hatting last night.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I had occasion to look up Ron Cherry's famous YouTube video of the same title in honor of his white-hatting last night.

Stupid, contrived moment. Now, the Ben Dreith one was priceless.

[Fritz]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I could agree with a no-call here as long as B1 doesn't get injured by the contact. No way it's a block, though.

Seems like at the youth level, we get this sitch every other game. Defender falls down due to puberty or whatever, dribbler then drives by, over or around the fallen player and trips over him through NO action by the defender. Loses ball out of bounds and the OC comes unglued with "Come on ref, you gotta call something there!"

"OK Coach; {whack} Technical Foul on the Head Coach!"

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Fritz

Seems like at the youth level, we get this sitch every other game. Defender falls down due to puberty or whatever, dribbler then drives by, over or around the fallen player and trips over him through NO action by the defender. Loses ball out of bounds and the OC comes unglued with "Come on ref, you gotta call something there!"

"OK Coach; {whack} Technical Foul on the Head Coach!"

I know I wont T for that statement alone.