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[jevaque]

if A1 tripped on B1 and fell on him then its a blocking foul on B1, B1 does not have LGP

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jevaque

if A1 tripped on B1 and fell on him then its a blocking foul on B1, B1 does not have LGP

Not if B1 isn't moving (NFHS rules). If he's not moving, he doesn't need LGP and it can't be a block.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by jevaque

if A1 tripped on B1 and fell on him then its a blocking foul on B1, B1 does not have LGP

In NCAA you would be correct; in Fed. you may not be correct. B1 may not have LGP, but B1 is still entitled to a spot on the floor and is not automatically responsible for the contact.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jevaque

if A1 tripped on B1 and fell on him then its a blocking foul on B1, B1 does not have LGP

why does legal guarding position apply?

B1's position on the floor could be legal?

is it not A1's job to avoid contact with a defender who has a legal position on the floor?

[deecee]

So why doesn't the intent of the rule apply here? - when do we get to be lieteral and focus on the intent of rules?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jevaque

if A1 tripped on B1 and fell on him then its a blocking foul on B1, B1 does not have LGP

Not true.

Under NFHS rules, every player is entitled to a spot on the floor as long as he gained the spot legally.

A defender does not have to have LGP to be fouled.

[jevaque]

so if B1 is laying under the basket and A1 goes up for a shot and lands on B1 what do you guys have?????

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jevaque

so if B1 is laying under the basket and A1 goes up for a shot and lands on B1 what do you guys have?????

PC unless the ball goes in the basket prior to contact, in which case it's just an injury time out for A1 and or B1.

[jevaque]

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

[jevaque]

who all agrees with this???

Originally Posted by jevaque View Post
so if B1 is laying under the basket and A1 goes up for a shot and lands on B1 what do you guys have?????

PC unless the ball goes in the basket prior to contact, in which case it's just an injury time out for A1 and or B1.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jevaque

who all agrees with this???

PC unless the ball goes in the basket prior to contact, in which case it's just an injury time out for A1 and or B1.

By rule he's got you,
there is nothing wrong with being on the floor
there is nothing wrong with being under the basket (NBA excluded)
and as long as that position was obtained before the shooter went airborne
I do not see where the issue is.

Now making the call is something altogether different - this is one of those does it fit the game calls in my opinion.
So with my luck it happens in the first 90 seconds of the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

By rule he's got you,
there is nothing wrong with being on the floor
there is nothing wrong with being under the basket (NBA excluded)
and as long as that position was obtained before the shooter went airborne
I do not see where the issue is.

Now making the call is something altogether different - this is one of those does it fit the game calls in my opinion.

I could agree with a no-call here as long as B1 doesn't get injured by the contact. No way it's a block, though.

Originally Posted by jevaque

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

A MS game?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

A MS game?

jevaque, sounds like you're trying to grasp some of these concepts, and perhaps you don't quite agree. Do you have a rule book handy? If so, do you have any rules basis for your disagreement?

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jevaque

If A1 dives on the floor for a loose ball mishandles it and he loses it stops sliding then B2 also going for the ball trips over A1. what ya got??

A mad scramble for the ball,
A1 was legally on the floor (got there first) wasn't moving
B tripped over A going to get the ball show me where the foul is?

Now if A1 is slidding and wipes out B2 then there is a foul on A but otherwise it is ugly but there really isn't a difinative foul here.