Foul on shot causes travel.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I'd have to see this play, but I don't picture a shooting motion that starts before the first landing in this case.

By rule, the shooting motion starts when as a player is gathering the ball for a layup; well before the first landing. Too many officials don't give them this, though.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

By rule, the shooting motion starts when as a player is gathering the ball for a layup; well before the first landing.

This is based on what?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is based on what?

This wording:

The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the release of the ball.

[just another ref]

I think this is a stretch. A player may do anything after he "gathers the ball" at the end of a dribble. Also, MTD's play could be any kind of shot, not necessarily a layup. A player often shoots a fadeaway after a jump stop.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think this is a stretch. A player may do anything after he "gathers the ball" at the end of a dribble. Also, MTD's play could be any kind of shot, not necessarily a layup. A player often shoots a fadeaway after a jump stop.

A player may do anything after he jumps for a shot, too, but that doesn't matter. See the whole play.