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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:25pm
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What would you do in a similar situation? I still haven't completely resolved this one in my mind...
I would just write a "Special Report" about the incident after the game. The Special Report (same form used for all ejections) in our state is something the Principal receives as well as the AD automatically (filed online). I would rather put this in the file so that the IHSA knows about it and the school administrators know about it. The IHSA will deal with the situation without my knowledge and either direct the school to move the officials to a better location or consider this behavior when other situations come up with this coach (which you may or may not be involved in). All Special Report filings must be given a response to the IHSA Office by the person being written about. In other words, depending on the administration that hires the coach, the coach might not have a job or at the very least get suspended based on this situation and other incidents that you know nothing about. And the use of language would be the main reason this might result in some sanction.

I do not see how this necessarily falls under the rules when the action is more logistical than a clear violation of unsportsmanlike behavior. Not to say that is not an option, but for me not the best option in my opinion.

Then in the second half, the coach better be on their best behavior, because they would not get the benefit of the doubt when complaining about calls or other things going on the court.

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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:48pm
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I would just write a "Special Report" about the incident after the game. The Special Report (same form used for all ejections) in our state is something the Principal receives as well as the AD automatically (filed online). I would rather put this in the file so that the IHSA knows about it and the school administrators know about it. The IHSA will deal with the situation without my knowledge and either direct the school to move the officials to a better location or consider this behavior when other situations come up with this coach (which you may or may not be involved in). All Special Report filings must be given a response to the IHSA Office by the person being written about. In other words, depending on the administration that hires the coach, the coach might not have a job or at the very least get suspended based on this situation and other incidents that you know nothing about. And the use of language would be the main reason this might result in some sanction.

I do not see how this necessarily falls under the rules when the action is more logistical than a clear violation of unsportsmanlike behavior. Not to say that is not an option, but for me not the best option in my opinion.

Then in the second half, the coach better be on their best behavior, because they would not get the benefit of the doubt when complaining about calls or other things going on the court.

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Leave it to Mr Rutledge and Mr. DeNucci to have the right handle on the situation. I would certainly be uncomfortable issuing a T for behvior that was neither directed at the crew nor on the court but instead "heard through the wall". A special report to the state seems like the right move IMHO.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 10:58pm
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Thinking about it some more, I would probably just leave the room and find some place to hang out for 5 minutes. Get some water, use the rest room, etc. And then file a report afterwards.

Or maybe just get the AD and have him listen in on the rant live and in person.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 01:01am
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Thinking about it some more, I would probably just leave the room and find some place to hang out for 5 minutes. Get some water, use the rest room, etc. And then file a report afterwards.

Or maybe just get the AD and have him listen in on the rant live and in person.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 08:40am
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Tough time backing this one up

I have to go with Rut and Mark here.
your juristicion does not include the teams lockeroom - despite Nevada's post about using electronic media - that applies to the use of electronic media for coaching purposes specifically.
The Rant by a player or coach in a passage way was directed toward an offical, and there by punnishable.

While you "know" the comment was directed at/to you, you can not make a strong enough case IMO to justify the T. What if it is the visiting coach and he doesn't know the place has thin wall or that you are next door?

Handle it through the proper channels by filing a report - and in the second half if the coach opens his mouth in anyway that would reenforce those comments, let him have it.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 10:53am
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IMHO, you could go either way on this. There is ample justification for a T to start the second half. The comments were obviously directed at the officials, and the punishment would fit the crime.

However, I can also understand the reluctance to go that route. And it shouldn't be too difficult to find a suitably insignificant reason to award the idiot his T in the second half. If the coach wants to make an issue of it, let him know that if you have to file a report due to his ejection, there will be a very detailed recounting of the halftime diatribe.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 11:02am
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IMHO, you could go either way on this. There is ample justification for a T to start the second half. The comments were obviously directed at the officials, and the punishment would fit the crime.

However, I can also understand the reluctance to go that route. And it shouldn't be too difficult to find a suitably insignificant reason to award the idiot his T in the second half. If the coach wants to make an issue of it, let him know that if you have to file a report due to his ejection, there will be a very detailed recounting of the halftime diatribe.
I might go this route, and here, we have to file a report on any T.
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Leave it to Mr Rutledge and Mr. DeNucci to have the right handle on the situation.
Agreed...but now NevadaRef is going to come along and tell them they are cowards also. This could get interesting!!
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