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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 11:14am
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It's just the way everybody in my association does it 90+ % of the time. I see it all as a non-issue.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"
The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. 2002
When visiting a foreign land, follow the customs of those who live in it. It can also mean that when you are in an unfamiliar situation, you should follow the lead of those who know the ropes.

The proverb is often attributed to Saint Ambrose, whose advice to Saint Augustine read: "Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi" ('When you are in Rome live in the Roman style; when you are elsewhere live as they live elsewhere'). St. Ambrose, quoted in St. Augustine Letters, "quando hic sum, non ieiuno sabbato; quando Romae sum, ieiuno sabbato", "when I am here i.e. Milan, I do not fast on Saturday; when I am in Rome, I fast on Saturday".

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"Whan tho herd hat Rome Do so of ther the dome" (when you are at Rome do as they do there).
(Modern Philology (1940))
"That which is commonly in euery mans mouth in England Whan you art at Rome, do as they do at Rome".
(1552 R. Taverner)
"My advice to you is among the Romans, do as the romans do".
(1766 in L. H. Butterfield)
"Do at Rome as the Romans do,’ is the essence of all politeness".
(1836 E. Howard Rattlin the Reefer)
‘I thought the English never bothered about protocol?’ ‘When in Rome, however, we do as the Romans do.’
(1960 N. Mitford Don't tell Alfred)
"One woman stationed there (Saudi Arabia) who purports to be comfortable with the rules said, ‘When in Rome, do as the Romans do.’ But how far does that go? To feeding the lions?"
(2001 Washington Post 8 Dec.)
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 11:31am
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Never really thought much about it. It's just the way everybody in my association does it 90+ % of the time. I do prefer this personally. I sometimes take another shirt to change into after the games, but most times not even that. When I do have business elsewhere on the way to the game, I will simply take my uniform with me and change on the way somewhere. I see it all as a
non-issue.
Curious, are you provided a dressing room at the varsity level?

Sometimes I wonder if the emphasis on coming in business casual isn't to perpetuate the reason for a dressing room; which also provides us with needed privacy before and after the games.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 11:40am
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Curious, are you provided a dressing room at the varsity level?

Sometimes I wonder if the emphasis on coming in business casual isn't to perpetuate the reason for a dressing room; which also provides us with needed privacy before and after the games.
We always have someplace to go, most often a coach's office.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 11:55am
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I dress for future success. Since your always making a first impression on someone , dress business casual at the minimum.
What would be your maximum?
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 12:02pm
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I would never come dressed in my uniform. They are going to give me an office or something private. If this cannot happen, then I will not work there. And considering all the rain, snow and other weather, how can you keep your uniform clean when you have crap all over it in the first place?

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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 12:18pm
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What would be your maximum?
Black tie?
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 12:18pm
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I would never come dressed in my uniform. They are going to give me an office or something private. If this cannot happen, then I will not work there. And considering all the rain, snow and other weather, how can you keep your uniform clean when you have crap all over it in the first place?

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We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 02:53pm
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We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.
It's an Illinois thing. Most blame the governor.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 02:58pm
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It's an Illinois thing.
Don't they have a motto in the "Land Of Lincoln", "Get dirty snow on you early, get dirty snow on you often."?
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 03:32pm
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[QUOTE=BillyMac;562092]"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

Or, for our Shishmaref ref buddy, "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do."
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We don't have crap in our rain and snow here. Sounds like some kind of weird localized ecological problem.
I do not wear a uniform to a game much more than weather considerations. It looks stupid to me and looks like anyone can walk off the street and work the game (which you have not proven to people that do not know you by doing this). When you give that impression, people treat you that way as well.

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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 06:48pm
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I do not wear a uniform to a game much more than weather considerations. It looks stupid to me........
It looks stupid to show up to officiate wearing an official's uniform.

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.......and looks like anyone can walk off the street and work the game ........
Actually, pretty much anyone can walk off the street and call the game. Look at, well, yourself, for example. If you feel that you need to be dressed a certain way to make a certain impression, I suggest you continue to do so. I am glad not to be in an area with such restrictions, whether real or imagined.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 07:06pm
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Common sense would have you not be dressed in your uniform prior to arrival. Many end up eating or drinking on the way to the game and spilling food on your uniform would not be a good way to show up at game sites. And with all of the crazies out there, being dressed in your uniform on the way out to your car is not a good idea. The only exception I can think of is if your day job is at Foot Locker and you go straight from work to the game site.

Guys who show up dressed for the game are generally viewed as guys who will spend as little time as possible there and grab their checks and go. That seems to be the common view and there must be a reason for it.

That said, showing up to do a bunch of AAU games usually has a different protocol.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 07:17pm
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That said, showing up to do a bunch of AAU games usually has a different protocol.
So, apparently, does working in different regions.

I see this like belted pants. 90% of the areas, it's a no-no. In some areas, it's the norm. If it's the norm, do it. If it's against the norm, don't do it if you want to move up.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2008, 07:30pm
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So, apparently, does working in different regions.

I see this like belted pants. 90% of the areas, it's a no-no. In some areas, it's the norm. If it's the norm, do it. If it's against the norm, don't do it if you want to move up.
That's what I will need to deal with NEXT season. Here, about half the officials have beltless. I prefer belted to avoid Welmering up my game. Guess I will give the flex belt another go to see how that works.

Sorta like Smittys vs Lanyards.
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