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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am
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As Bob alluded to, they're required to provide the numbers to avoid the T. They are not required to have the numbers in the book to avoid the T. You can't possibly punish the visiting team (or home team, for that matter) if they've given the info to the scorer but the scorer either isn't there or hasn't entered the info yet.
Agreed and I wasn't going to penalize since the official scorer was nowhere to be seen, but rather than have the visiting scorer sitting there with the official book transcribing into his own, I figured it was more important to get the numbers into the official book so I could review them, have the captains/coaches meeting, and get the hell away from the table...
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 12:16pm
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Agreed and I wasn't going to penalize since the official scorer was nowhere to be seen, but rather than have the visiting scorer sitting there with the official book transcribing into his own, I figured it was more important to get the numbers into the official book so I could review them, have the captains/coaches meeting, and get the hell away from the table...

Have the meeting first, then get to the book later. Or, check the numbers in the home team book and the visiting team book.

Physically taking the book from the V scorer and requesting the announcer to transcribe into the home book is way OOO, imho.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 07:44pm
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By The Book (Get It ???) ???

So most you guys expect the book to be ready, i.e. names, and numbers, supplied, before the ten minute mark? Here in my little corner of the "Land of Steady Habits", the book almost never "ready" at ten ten minute mark, all the way up to, and including, high school varsity games. I have never seen, or heard about a technical foul penalty for this in 28 years. This seems to be our "custom", to give a little, or a lot of, leeway to the table crew. If we started enforcing the rule, as written in the book, after about a week, names , and numbers, would not only be supplied, they would be in the book at the twelve minute mark, which is when our referees are supposed to check the book. As it stands, if any of us called a technical foul, by the book, in this situation, we would be viewed by our assigner, our interpreters, and our evaluators, as being "overly officious officials".
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Old Thu Dec 18, 2008, 10:07am
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slowwhistle, instead of focusing on getting all the different table people to work together to get the info into the book, I'd focus on getting a person to the table to do the book, and let the book be late as long as there's SOMEONE THERE TO DO IT!!! Get with the AD, site supervisor, home coach if necessary, and get someone there!

This is more important than the book, because you need to establish a relationship with this person, in order to make the game less troublesome. Especially if there's just been a delay because of weather, you don't want one person starting the game and then the "real" person coming in late or never, with the sub just sort of hanging out, making mistakes, etc, etc etc. If the "real" person is gonna be late, you want to train and settle someone else and get that sitch all firmed up before the game starts. Then when the "real" person gets there (if ever) they can help, but keep that other person there and keep them learning.

There are two benefits to this. 1) You have some consistency on the book through the whole game. 2) That school has a substitute with some experience, for when the "real" person gets the flu or something.
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