Backcourt violation - 3 second violation

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Shades of Gray

Thanks for the replies but I am still having trouble trying to understand why this should be a backcourt violation in the example I described.

I'm sure that you agree / know that if a player is in the FC holding the ball and then touches the BC, that it's a violation. (Right?)

So, your play:

Player holds ball straddling division line -- Player and ball are in BC (when a player is touching both BC and FC, the player is in BC).

Player lifts BC foot -- player and ball are now in FC (the "three points" rule applies only to a dribbler -- not to a player holding the ball; if a player is only touching the FC, s/he's in the FC).

Player places foot on floor in BC -- player and ball are in BC.

So, it's a violation.

Note that if the player "drags" his / her BC foot (as you ask), that the second step above hasn't happened -- the player has remained in the BC.



So, it's a violation.

[cdoug]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm sure that you agree / know that if a player is in the FC holding the ball and then touches the BC, that it's a violation. (Right?)

So, your play:

Player holds ball straddling division line -- Player and ball are in BC (when a player is touching both BC and FC, the player is in BC).

Player lifts BC foot -- player and ball are now in FC (the "three points" rule applies only to a dribbler -- not to a player holding the ball; if a player is only touching the FC, s/he's in the FC).

Player places foot on floor in BC -- player and ball are in BC.

So, it's a violation.

Note that if the player "drags" his / her BC foot (as you ask), that the second step above hasn't happened -- the player has remained in the BC.



So, it's a violation.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but read Bob's response and was wondering...

If A1 is in the backcourt and makes a sudden turn to go along the division line so that they're in the front court with their feet but in the back court with their dribble what's the call? I assume that the BC count would continue since the ball hasn't touched the FC yet. Am I right?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by cdoug

I don't mean to hijack the thread but read Bob's response and was wondering...

If A1 is in the backcourt and makes a sudden turn to go along the division line so that they're in the front court with their feet but in the back court with their dribble what's the call? I assume that the BC count would continue since the ball hasn't touched the FC yet. Am I right?

THe player is dribbling, so the "three points rule" applies. Have all three points touched the FC? (that's rhetorical). So, what is the ball location?(ditto) If the ball is in the BC, do you continue your count? (ditto)

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

THe player is dribbling, so the "three points rule" applies. Have all three points touched the FC? (that's rhetorical). So, what is the ball location?(ditto) If the ball is in the BC, do you continue your count? (ditto)

Oooh, I like the new socratic Bob!

Also, if Bob's asking questions, and questions aren't right or wrong, then is Bob always right?

Unless they're the right questions....