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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 05:11pm
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Uniform Question

This is my first post as I am a new member. If you all have discussed this before just show me the thread.

Last night I was calling a Boys Varsity Game. In the Girls JV game that was played before a fellow official made a ruling that has me confused as I can't find anything about it in the nfhs books. A girl on the visiting team (blue Jerseys) has on one short sock and one knee length Blue sock. About midway through the second quarter the official sees this and stops play and makes the player leave the game to change the sock. My partner and I spoke about it briefly stating that we were not sure what to do. We came to the conclusion that since the sock has nothing to do with the play of the game, or any player's safety during the game then we do nothing. Espically since it was midway through the second quarter of play and the girl was a starter. I feel that if this is to be caught then it must be caught in pregame warmups. I looked in the books and haven't been able to find anything dealing with players socks. Personally I think that it looks stupid but has no effect on the game so if the player wants to look like an idiot the so be it, he's not hurting anyone by wearing one sock long and one short. The official who made the call told the coach that he was making the player remove the sock because it was "decorative". What do you guys and gals think?
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 05:17pm
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You know the reason you couldn't find anything in the rules? Because there is nothing in the rules covering socks. Now, given the other uniform issues we have to deal with, I suppose it's only a matter of time before they are addressed, but in the meantime, this was simply a case of an OOO. (Overly-officious official.)
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 05:44pm
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I didn't think there was anything but wasn't for sure. When I have to look through 3 or 4 different books to find some things I tend to overlook stuff. Primarily when it comes to uniforms. I hate being the Uniform Police. Seriously what does it have to do with the way the game is played or the safety of the players if they have on a different colored undershirt or one with the sleeves cut off? Even a manufactures logo? That has absolutely nothing to do with the game of basketball or the safety of those involved. I understand the purpose of several of the uniform rules but some just get to me. I get just can't understand the logic behind these.

I think sometimes officials call stuff or make decisions like the one made last night to show someone how smart they are. What did you call it a OOO?
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 05:50pm
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Under 3.5.1, I guess he could have considered the mismatched socks "confusing to other players". I know it would make me dizzy just looking at them.

As to manufacturers logos, there is a specific reason for not allowing them. I think it has to do with keeping sponsorship payments out of HS sports, or something like that.
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 08:21pm
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As to manufacturers logos, there is a specific reason for not allowing them. I think it has to do with keeping sponsorship payments out of HS sports, or something like that.
Do restrictions on manufacturing logos apply to socks?
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 08:49pm
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Do restrictions on manufacturing logos apply to socks?
3.6.1 "Shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purposes of visible logo size."

Manufacturing logos restrictions do not apply to socks or shoes.

Hey, it's my first actual contribution to the forum! It's been all questions from me up to this point.
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 10:27pm
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I'm not 100$% sure, but dind't there used to be NFHS rules on socks, but they were eventually repealed?

Either way, socks are not considered part of the uniform in NFHS.
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3.6.1 "Shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purposes of visible logo size."

Manufacturing logos restrictions do not apply to socks or shoes.

Hey, it's my first actual contribution to the forum! It's been all questions from me up to this point.
And a good one to boot
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 03:20am
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3.6.1 "Shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purposes of visible logo size."

Manufacturing logos restrictions do not apply to socks or shoes.

Hey, it's my first actual contribution to the forum! It's been all questions from me up to this point.
From a little over a week ago: Socks?

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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 07:40am
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Under 3.5.1, I guess he could have considered the mismatched socks "confusing to other players". I know it would make me dizzy just looking at them.
No more dizzying than vertical black and white stripes....
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 07:48am
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No more dizzying than vertical black and white stripes.
We're supposed to stand out so no one thinks we're a teammate, and passes the ball to us by mistake. Also, we all dress the same, as a team.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:41am
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Here's the deal. Anyone that's worried about socks is worried TOO much and is "majoring in the minors." There is nothing in the rules on socks and you look like a dufus when you make it an issue. Trust me, I've seen it happen. Forget socks and worry about fouls, travels, charges, and blocks. That's my less than humble opinion on the matter.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:42am
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... given the other uniform issues we have to deal with, I suppose it's only a matter of time before they are addressed...
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:53am
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Hey M&M,
Don't you think that we also pray that Tanner gets some more officiating equipment, especially whistles for Christmas this year?
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