Double Whistle Situation

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Sounds good to me. I originally typed "try to decide which came first" then left out the try. Right or wrong, in this situation the officials must decide which came first. There is no way to enforce both. ***


*** Where I come from, there's no such thing as a blarge. One of these things also happens before the other.

What happens in your area, when it's just one-on-one, A1 and B1, and two officials signal two different fouls: a block and a charge?

In this case, there is no "this happened first". It's the same contact. One official judged it to be a block. The other, a PC.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What happens in your area, when it's just one-on-one, A1 and B1, and two officials signal two different fouls: a block and a charge?

In this case, there is no "this happened first". It's the same contact. One official judged it to be a block. The other, a PC.

One official yields to the judgment of the other. A signal does not a call make.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

One official yields to the judgment of the other. A signal does not a call make.

I believe the Fed disagrees with you. Last I read, the correct ruling from the NFHS is that you are to report both fouls, and go with the arrow.

By using only one official's judgment, you are discounting the judgment of an official. From that point on, how can you be certain that the judgment of said official is accurate?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I believe the Fed disagrees with you. Last I read, the correct ruling from the NFHS is that you are to report both fouls, and go with the arrow.

By using only one official's judgment, you are discounting the judgment of an official. From that point on, how can you be certain that the judgment of said official is accurate?

The Fed also says, by definition, that a block and a charge cannot occur at the same time.

At any given time, how can you ever be certain that anyone's judgment is accurate?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The Fed also says, by definition, that a block and a charge cannot occur at the same time.

At any given time, how can you ever be certain that anyone's judgment is accurate?

I apologize for using approved rulings. The coaches in my area should be notified.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I believe the Fed disagrees with you. Last I read, the correct ruling from the NFHS is that you are to report both fouls, and go with the arrow POI.

By using only one official's judgment, you are discounting the judgment of an official. From that point on, how can you be certain that the judgment of said official is accurate?

Fixed it for ya.

[zm1283]

On a block/charge, the Trail shouldn't be doing anything except for keeping his fist in the air waiting on the Lead to make a call. Doubling up on something like this is pretty avoidable if you pregame it properly.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

On a block/charge, the Trail shouldn't be doing anything except for keeping his fist in the air waiting on the Lead to make a call. Doubling up on something like this is pretty avoidable if you pregame it properly.

Not necessarily true; way to much of a blanket statement.

[mick]

We had a double whistle blarge the other night.
Partner and I had a block.
Defense coach had a charge.
We went with 'block' after a brief discussion.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I believe the Fed disagrees with you. Last I read, the correct ruling from the NFHS is that you are to report both fouls, and go with the arrow.

By using only one official's judgment, you are discounting the judgment of an official. From that point on, how can you be certain that the judgment of said official is accurate?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Fixed it for ya.

Good catch. It was 3am here at the time. That's my, um, excuse. lol

[jritchie]

Originally Posted by just another ref

One official yields to the judgment of the other. A signal does not a call make.

Then the official that yields, has to immediately T the coach for yielding on their foul and not the other way around! Not a good mechanic if you ask me!
Two different angles, two different looks. Sometimes you just get both, you try not let it happen, but when it does, the book covers it and it should be dealt with in that manner. Not just act like it didn't happen.