legal or illegal dribble

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

I guess A1 could also hand-off the ball, and I know of no definition of that.

But you do know the definition of a dribble. Does placing the ball on the floor meet that definition?

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

But you do know the definition of a dribble. Does placing the ball on the floor meet that definition?

The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted.

The ball went to the floor. Yes.
Hands on the ball moving toward the release point, hands removed from the ball. Yes.

Granted, the forced applied on the ball was minimal.

How softly can you throw a ball?

[Adam]

Sam asks a good question; can a dribble start without pushing, forcing, or batting?

Sure. A1 is holding the ball. He then "lets" it drop to the floor and catches it with both hands. He proceeds to dribble the ball. Violation?

[ajs8207]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sam asks a good question; can a dribble start without pushing, forcing, or batting?

Sure. A1 is holding the ball. He then "lets" it drop to the floor and catches it with both hands. He proceeds to dribble the ball. Violation?

Under the traveling definition, I guess it's not. However, could we really not call that a travel, or at least something under 2-3?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sam asks a good question; can a dribble start without pushing, forcing, or batting?

Sure. A1 is holding the ball. He then "lets" it drop to the floor and catches it with both hands. He proceeds to dribble the ball. Violation?

Originally Posted by ajs8207

Under the traveling definition, I guess it's not. However, could we really not call that a travel, or at least something under 2-3?

No, it's not a travel violation. Let's assume my hypothetical player never moved his feet. Do you have a dribbling violation?

I think it's obviously a violation, but the ball was never pushed, batted, or forced to the floor (unless gravity counts, but that would include the OP's player setting the ball on the floor.)

[Back In The Saddle]

This falls squarely under rule 11-1. Not a dribble. Don't go there.