legal or illegal dribble

[mick]

Originally Posted by iref4him

A rookie official asked me this last night. A1 is holding the ball and has not used his dribble. A1 places the ball on the floor, wipes his hands off on his socks, and then picks up the ball and starts his dribble. The rookie said he would call an illegal dribble. What do you think?

I think setting the ball on the floor, releasing it and starting a dribble should be considered to be a dribble violation, because it exceeds the stands still and holds requirement of 4.15 Comment.

The holding of the ball is a clearly written parameter, as is the standing still.
Should the ball be allowed to be picked up? I think, yes.
Should the ball be allowed to be dribbled? I think not.

References ? My gut.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mick

I think setting the ball on the floor, releasing it and starting a dribble should be considered to be a dribble violation, because it exceeds the stands still and holds requirement of 4.15 Comment.

The holding of the ball is a clearly written parameter, as is the standing still.
Should the ball be allowed to be picked up? I think, yes.
Should the ball be allowed to be dribbled? I think not.

References ? My gut.

I agree. Placing the ball down on the floor, letting go, and then touching it again has to be considered a dribble.

It's one reason that I've never liked the ruling in the final sentence of 4.44.5 Sit B.

[refnrev]

I've got a violation.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Placing the ball down on the floor, letting go, and then touching it again has to be considered a dribble.

Why? When was the ball batted or pushed to the floor? 4-15-1

[mick]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree. Placing the ball down on the floor, letting go, and then touching it again has to be considered a dribble.

It's one reason that I've never liked the ruling in the final sentence of 4.44.5 Sit B.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Why? When was the ball batted or pushed to the floor? 4-15-1

Scrapper1,
From U.P. here, it looks like putting the ball on the floor and releasing it may be the start of a dribble, and the subsequent *picking up* may be the end of the dribble.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mick

Scrapper1,
From U.P. here, it looks like putting the ball on the floor and releasing it may be the start of a dribble, and the subsequent *picking up* may be the end of the dribble.

Why? When was the ball batted or pushed to the floor? 4-15-1

[BillyMac]

NFHS 4.15.Comment: Is is not a dribble when the player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Why? When was the ball batted or pushed to the floor? 4-15-1

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS 4.15.Comment: Is is not a dribble when the player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once.

Then it is a dribble when no longer holding...?

Scrapper1,
The player pushed it [away from himself] to the floor. He did not bat it, pull it, or hold it. He pushed it.
If releasing the ball don't make no nevermind, why in the world would it be included in the wording ?
Sell me.