Teams go in the wrong direction

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Rule 4.5.4 says "when discovered" all points, fouls, etc. count. It does not say who has to "discover" the original mistake. In this play, Team B "discovered" the mistake and had the uncontested layup. The rule says we do not penalize Team A for the officials' mistake. Score is now 2-2 and A inbounds the ball.

It was "discovered" as soon as B stopped / turned around. What happened after that shouldn't have. Don't allow B's "basket" to count for anyone.

In my view, it's much the same as the official announcing 2 shots when it should be 1-1. If "everyone" plays the rebound, then continue. If only one person plays the rebound, then fix the problem.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It was "discovered" as soon as B stopped / turned around. What happened after that shouldn't have. Don't allow B's "basket" to count for anyone.

In my view, it's much the same as the official announcing 2 shots when it should be 1-1. If "everyone" plays the rebound, then continue. If only one person plays the rebound, then fix the problem.

Ultimately one of the Crew should have figured this out before the toss, and it should never have happened.

Discovered would be in MHO when the officals determine that they were sleeping and screwed the pooch. Everything up to that point counts take your medicine and move on.

But you can not blow your whistle until you figure out that there was screw up that you made, if the kid figures it out you can not penalize him for it.
but per chance what if the kid didn't know it was the right basket, and most likely if everyone in the gym isn't yelling it by now the kid isn't going to know it either.

[mick]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

Ultimately one of the Crew should have figured this out before the toss, and it should never have happened.

Discovered would be in MHO when the officals determine that they were sleeping and screwed the pooch. Everything up to that point counts take your medicine and move on.

*Discovered* is undefined, as BayStateRef pointed out. And since it is not specifically stated who the discoverer shall be, use that freedom of judgement to make your game as fair as possible.

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

But you can not blow your whistle until you figure out that there was screw up that you made, if the kid figures it out you can not penalize him for it.

Actually, I can blow my whistle whenever is see fit to blow it. Too, I can recognize the mistake before I blow my whistle

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

but per chance what if the kid didn't know it was the right basket, and most likely if everyone in the gym isn't yelling it by now the kid isn't going to know it either.

I dunno what you're saying here. But, if Kid B purposely shot in an opponent's basket, and the mistake still isn't discovered, then it's B's ball again and still going the wrong way *until it's discovered". [A-4; B-0]