Throw-in, Double Foul

[jritchie]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

This is a terrible reason to change the team control rules. It's really just not that difficult. During a throw-in, resume with a throw-in. After the throw-in ends, then you have to determine if there's control.

Changing one the most basic definitions of the game is a bad idea. We shouldn't be messing with our basic definitions and the "Basketball Fundamentals" because of one play that happens once a season.

MUST NOT BE TO BAD OF A CHANGE IF THE NCAA THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA!



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I surely wouldn't argue with that one! New Assignor this year, going to be fun!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by jritchie

MUST NOT BE TO BAD OF A CHANGE IF THE NCAA THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA!

That's why I said it was my humble opinion. I think it's a terrible idea to mess with the fundamental rules of the game for a once-in-a-blue-moon play.

[fiasco]

6-4-3g needs to be re-written to provide additional clarification for the throw in. Whether that constitutes including the exception for throw-ins within 6-4-3g or just directing the reader to 4-36-2b, I couldn't care less, but the rule is misleading as it is currently written.

[jritchie]

I would have to agree Fiasco!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by fiasco

6-4-3g needs to be re-written. . . [snip]. . .[T]he rule is misleading as it is currently written.

Not trying to be a wise guy, but what's misleading about it? Use the AP arrow when there's a double or simultaneous foul and there no team control and there's no other infraction, goal or end of period involved. That seems pretty clear to me, I guess.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Not trying to be a wise guy, but what's misleading about it? Use the AP arrow when there's a double or simultaneous foul and there no team control and there's no other infraction, goal or end of period involved. That seems pretty clear to me, I guess.

The misleading thing is that this doesn't apply to the throw in. On a throw-in, you don't go AP if there's a double foul. But that's not explained in 6-4-3g.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by fiasco

The misleading thing is that this doesn't apply to the throw in. On a throw-in, you don't go AP if there's a double foul.

Interesting, ok. I see your point. It refers to no control and to a goal, infraction, or end of period being involved, but doesn't mention the caveat about "during a free throw or throw-in". Basically, they referenced two-thirds of the POI definition and then left out the last third.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Interesting, ok. I see your point. It refers to no control and to a goal, infraction, or end of period being involved, but doesn't mention the caveat about "during a free throw or throw-in". Basically, they referenced two-thirds of the POI definition and then left out the last third.

Exactamundo.

I had the same reaction as the OP when I first was presented with this scenario. Upon first thought, I was pretty sure it should be AP, so I went to the rule book. The way that rule reads, I felt justified in my answer, so I stopped looking. Therein lies the problem.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Interesting, ok. I see your point. It refers to no control and to a goal, infraction, or end of period being involved, but doesn't mention the caveat about "during a free throw or throw-in". Basically, they referenced two-thirds of the POI definition and then left out the last third.

But it does...

The reason for all free-throws is an infraction and the reason for most throwins is an infraction or a made goal.

So, an infraction or goal is involved in most throwins.

[jritchie]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Not trying to be a wise guy, but what's misleading about it? Use the AP arrow when there's a double or simultaneous foul and there no team control and there's no other infraction, goal or end of period involved. That seems pretty clear to me, I guess.

Because there is no team control on a throw-in, and it says
"Use the AP arrow when there's a double or simultaneous foul and there no team control "
But if you look at the other part of the book it says unless it's a free throw or a throw in!