Interrupted dribble and OOB

[SamIAm]

I re-read the dribble definition, "bat or push to the floor". The interrupted dribbler can not touch or bat the ball to the floor without it being a dribble, however they could tip/bat the ball to a teammate, or the ball could bounce off of them (leg or hip) for example while touching OOB.

(I know this is very unlikely in developed ball players.) I am just wondering.

Are you asking that if during an interrupted dribble, the dribbler attempts to recover the ball but is standing on an OOB while simultaneously touching/tipping the ball... is that legal?

As in A1 while dribbling momentarily loses the ball. While attempting to recover the ball A1 is standing on a OOB line & contacts the ball?

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Are you asking that if during an interrupted dribble, the dribbler attempts to recover the ball but is standing on an OOB while simultaneously touching/tipping the ball... is that legal?

As in A1 while dribbling momentarily loses the ball. While attempting to recover the ball A1 is standing on a OOB line & contacts the ball?

See post #4 in this thread.

that's what thought you were asking & in that case see post #7

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

...or the ball could bounce off of them (leg or hip) for example while touching OOB.

Which would cause and official to blow his/her whistle, raise an open palm to the sky, followed by a point and poclamation of a color other than that worn by the dribbler.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Which would cause and official to blow his/her whistle, raise an open palm to the sky, followed by a point and poclamation of a color other than that worn by the dribbler.

Where do the rules say you are correct in making that call in light of the 6d exception?

7-1-2(a) 1

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

I re-read the dribble definition, "bat or push to the floor". The interrupted dribbler can not touch or bat the ball to the floor without it being a dribble, however they could tip/bat the ball to a teammate, or the ball could bounce off of them (leg or hip) for example while touching OOB.

(I know this is very unlikely in developed ball players.) I am just wondering.

Originally Posted by SamIAm

Where do the rules say you are correct in making that call in light of the 6d exception?

A person who is standing OOB (except during a throw-in) commits a violation when they touch the ball. There is no exception to that rule.

The exception you are referencing does not over-ride that fundamental rule.

The exception you are referencing is there to differentiate from a dribbler who voluntarily goes OOB in betweens bats.

You are over-thinking the rule.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

A person who is standing OOB (except during a throw-in) commits a violation when they touch the ball. There is no exception to that rule.

The exception you are referencing does not over-ride that fundamental rule.

The exception you are referencing is there to differentiate from a dribbler who voluntarily goes OOB in betweens bats.

You are over-thinking the rule.

I am not over thinking this rule. I know what is intended by this rule. I should have worded my original question differently. My only question was:
Is there a rule or case play indicating this is illegal? Since no one came up this one that did not include OOB violation, which 6d says is excluded, I chalk this up to a minor error in the rules.

[Back In The Saddle]

It is, perhaps, a little vaguely worded. But I it seems that most of us understand that it's referring to 9-3-1 Note ("The dribbler has committed a violation if he/she steps on or outside a boundary, even though he/she is not touching the ball while he/she is out of bounds.").

Perhaps if it were worded thus: "d. The former dribbler does not commit an out-of-bounds violation if he/she steps on our outside a boundary while not touching the ball (See 9-1-3 Note)."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

I am not over thinking this rule. I know what is intended by this rule. I should have worded my original question differently. My only question was:
Is there a rule or case play indicating this is illegal? Since no one came up this one that did not include OOB violation, which 6d says is excluded, I chalk this up to a minor error in the rules.

6d does not say a player with OOB status can touch the ball. The exception refers to a player leaving court who is not in contact with the ball.

[BillyMac]

A little off topic, but just a reminder:

There is no three-second count between the release of a shot and the control of a rebound, at which time a new count starts. There is no three-second count during a throwin. There is no three-second count while the ball is in the backcourt. There is a three-second count during an interrupted dribble.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

I am not over thinking this rule. I know what is intended by this rule. I should have worded my original question differently. My only question was:
Is there a rule or case play indicating this is illegal? Since no one came up this one that did not include OOB violation, which 6d says is excluded, I chalk this up to a minor error in the rules.

Consider the definition of an interrupted dribble. "the ball is loose" or "it momentarily gets away from the dribbler." When the dribbler touches the ball, it is no longer an interrupted dribble, so the out of bounds violation does apply.