Free Throw violation

[Coach Bill]

Why would B have the ball out-of-bounds?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

Why would B have the ball out-of-bounds?

Because if I'm standing where I'm supposed to be standing during a free throw when the shooter has the ball, I am out of bounds, and when he tosses the ball to me he is essentially throwing the ball out of bounds. End of his shot. B gets the ball for a throw-in where I'm standing.

Now, if I had my arm out indicating a delayed violation, now we have a double violation, so we'd go to the arrow and whoever has the arrow will get the ball for a throw-in.

[Indianaref]

Simultaneous free throw violation. Go to the AP. Unless you felt that the Free Throw shooter was disconcerted.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Because if I'm standing where I'm supposed to be standing during a free throw when the shooter has the ball, I am out of bounds, and when he tosses the ball to me he is essentially throwing the ball out of bounds. End of his shot. B gets the ball for a throw-in where I'm standing.

Now, if I had my arm out indicating a delayed violation, now we have a double violation, so we'd go to the arrow and whoever has the arrow will get the ball for a throw-in.

I was wondering if you were ignoring the violation by B, which is sounds like you are. Is this is another Rec ball thing? Most posters clarify NFHS, NCAA, NBA, etc..., but it sounds like we need to add another league called "Wreck" where some rules are optional and the refs don't hustle.

[Smitty]

I was simply responding to the situation in your OP - where the official does not have his arm out. If I didn't see the player take the space for some reason, I might not have my arm out. Keep in mind that as lead, I am not responsible for all of the players in all of the lane spots - my partner is responsible for some of them, so he may have his arm out and I might not. It depends on which one of us has the responsibility for the player who violates. If I see it, I will have my arm out. Regardless, the shooter should never ever toss the ball to me unless I have asked for it.

Personally, I would never let the lane space violation go - rec league or not - if I see it, I will have my arm out.

[Adam]

Player may or may not know what the arm out means. He should, however, know that a defensive violation gives him a free shot. He relinquishes this, however, by committing his own violation (ending his attempt without touching the rim or making the basket.)

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

....and the refs don't hustle.

Ah, there it is. You got your shot in Coach. WHACK