Arrow oops!

[Scrapper1]

A held ball is called and the AP arrow favors Team A. The officials mistakenly award the ball to Team B. B1 releases the throw-in pass and the ball is immediately kicked by A1. The table then informs the officials that Team A should have had the last throw-in. What happens next?

"We made a mistake coach (Team A) but you get 2 of the next 3 arrows"

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

A held ball is called and the AP arrow favors Team A. The officials mistakenly award the ball to Team B. B1 releases the throw-in pass and the ball is immediately kicked by A1. The table then informs the officials that Team A should have had the last throw-in. What happens next?

Scrapper1:

NFHS R4-S42-A5: "The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches, or is legally touched by a player inbounds or out of bounds, except as in R7-S5-A7." See NCAA R4-S67-A4 for the comparable rule.

Your situation is not a Correctable Error (ER) and I know, but cannot find it in the rules book, that it if it is discovered before the AP Throw-in ends that the wrong team has been given the ball for the AP Throw-in has ended that the correct team can be given the ball for the AP Throw-in. Since, by definition the throw-in in your situation did not end because A1 did not legally touch the ball, Team A is awarded the ball for an AP Throw-in at this point in the game.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

"We made a mistake coach (Team A) but you get 2 of the next 3 arrows"

Ch1town:

Wrong answer, see my post immediately below yours.

MTD, Sr.

That's right, I remember the big deal last year about a kick on a AP throw-in. The next throw-in is for the violation & the team retains the arrow. So yeah the throw-in never ended & can still be corrected. Thanks MTD!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

if it is discovered before the AP Throw-in ends that the wrong team has been given the ball for the AP Throw-in has ended that the correct team can be given the ball for the AP Throw-in. Since, by definition the throw-in in your situation did not end because A1 did not legally touch the ball, Team A is awarded the ball for an AP Throw-in at this point in the game.

Bingo. Again, you guys are too smart and too quick. I was hoping there would be a little more discussion before somebody remembered that it can be corrected until the throw-in ends.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Bingo. Again, you guys are too smart and too quick. I was hoping there would be a little more discussion before somebody remembered that it can be corrected until the throw-in ends.

Interesting. A bit of incentive for A to kick the ball here; although the odds against them knowing of the error and thinking of this way to correct it within the 2 seconds or so they'll have are pretty long.

[jdmara]

So if B would have successfully thrown the ball into play, nothing could have been corrected if noticed?

-Josh

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdmara

So if B would have successfully thrown the ball into play, nothing could have been corrected if noticed?

-Josh

That's correct, regardless of the outcome of the throwin (catch by offense, steal by defense, tip out of bounds by defense or offense).

[Adam]

Here's a twist, let's have a double foul during the throwin mistakenly given to team B.

Now what?

[jdmara]

Shew...I think there is a rule book calling may name tonight...time to read up again on CE

-Josh

[Adam]

It won't be under CE. This is one you'll need to combine some things for.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It won't be under CE. This is one you'll need to combine some things for.

It's time to look at CE again anyways, along with the rest of the rulebook

-Josh

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Here's a twist, let's have a double foul during the throwin mistakenly given to team B.

Now what?

Ok, double fouls go to POI unless there is no team control (throw-in) in which case we'd go to the arrow.
But wait a minute... the arrow hadn't switched because the throw-in (to the wrong team) hadn't ended yet. It seems logical to fix the mistake here & give it to Team A.

Or better yet, don't %#&* it up to begin with!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdmara

It's time to look at CE again anyways, along with the rest of the rulebook

-Josh

Fair enough.